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The game(Bioshock Inf) is a alternate reality most like inspired by readers of Philip K Dick .....yet instead of being in an alternate reality and the future it is the alternate reality and the past. The dark haired woman is there and all. If you are a PKD fan then you understand what I mean. In the end it is a dark parody about the US with occult undertones.

I haven't finished it since there are so many things to screen shot I feel that I am more often playing Occult e mon Snap but I digress. Not a great game but a nice piece of art so to speak.
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The game(Bioshock Inf) is a alternate reality most like inspired by readers of Philip K Dick .....yet instead of being in an alternate reality and the future it is the alternate reality and the past. The dark haired woman is there and all. If you are a PKD fan then you understand what I mean. In the end it is a dark parody about the US with occult undertones.

I haven't finished it since there are so many things to screen shot I feel that I am more often playing Occult e mon Snap but I digress. Not a great game but a nice piece of art so to speak.

I agree. The landscape is just so darn distracting. They almost made it too good (the visuals that is)
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I don't think think infinite qualifies as crazy racist. there are no slave beatings, no outright abuse of the unfavored races, no racist songs, no racial slurs, and realistically the racial element is hardly everpresent. Aside from the level in the slums theres are only occasional racial implications. the witcher was crazy racist. Bioshock Infinite was not. True story tongue.gif
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I don't think think infinite qualifies as crazy racist. there are no slave beatings, no outright abuse of the unfavored races, no racist songs, no racial slurs, and realistically the racial element is hardly everpresent. Aside from the level in the slums theres are only occasional racial implications. the witcher was crazy racist. Bioshock Infinite was not. True story tongue.gif

They effectively stoned a man on stage for the color of his skin. How the heck is that not racist?!? No to mention they also had separated bathrooms for the different "classes of society"
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They effectively stoned a man on stage for the color of his skin. How the heck is that not racist?!? No to mention they also had separated bathrooms for the different "classes of society"

Neither of which ever happened in reality....
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They effectively stoned a man on stage for the color of his skin. How the heck is that not racist?!? No to mention they also had separated bathrooms for the different "classes of society"

Did you actually throw the rock? If so, you sir, are a racist.

I'm kidding.

Personally, I found BioShock Infinite to be slightly racial. The Implications were there, just not truly acted upon; However, the timeline the game was based after- racism, or simply racial stereotypes, was the norm, so it didn't feel out of place at all.
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The Witcher 2 provides very few choices in comparison to any Dragon Age game and many other RPGs. Of all choices, only one of them has a huge immediate and long term effect (giving Iorveth his weapon back or not) while all others are just an immediate change with no long-term effect or affect on the ending.

Not to mention, they likely won't impact TW3 at all. Only two or three choices made in TW1 affect TW2, and they're minuscule changes at most (one dialogue line changes, and you are given an alternative approach to enter a city). Your romance choice isn't even addressed. lachen.gif

Compared to DA:O, for which there are hundreds of ways the story plays out and many different possible fates for characters, and many of these decisions are taken into account during DA2.

Character development is completely one dimensional in TW2. Dialogue choices lead to no change in their personality, and rarely do they even change their responses. NPCs won't act differently toward you depending how you converse with them or what choices you make throughout the game, and you can't really define the protagonist's personality either. Bioware games are the exact opposite.

It's of course possible to like TW2 more, but it's clearly the much lesser RPG and the story/dialogue barely branches out in comparison. Much more linear gameplay, much more linear storytelling, no matter how you look at it. TW2 only asks for two playthroughs, while DA:O demands six.

The two games have a completely different take on combat, so you can't compare them at all. DA:O is party-based, stat-based, strategic, and features pausing. In TW2 you're alone for the most part, and is completely real-time with very little stat-based influence. Combat-wise, TW2 is like a normal 3rd person action adventure game, with RPG elements shoehorned in. Role-Playing is secondary when it comes to storytelling too.

But I see where you're coming from; in most Bioware games, you end up gathering a team and saving the world. The Witcher is different, though Dragon Age 2 does away with that too.

Like I said, it's more the fault of Bioware's other games than anything wrong with DA:O that I thought DA:O was boring. By the time I got to DA:O, I felt like I had seen everything before from them - the way they structure their game, their stories, and their characters all felt like deja vu to me.

As a result, the choices I had in TW2 actually felt meaningful, and the characters felt interesting, since they didn't feel like characters/plot points that I had already seen 10 times in the last few games I had played through.

For example...


It also really bothers me that they structure their romance storylines basically the same way... give you a couple options, let you progress through flirting at set progress points between certain missions, culminating with sleeping together at or near the end of the game, and that's it. Blechhhhhhh.

To a lesser extent, things like this.
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They threw the racist elements in there in an attempt to make the game feel more profound and controversial than it really was, and in my opinion it didn't fit quite well. It's like they were in a meeting and were just looking for ideas to make the game feel more complex than it was. (distractions if you will to keep people from realizing it was just a run of the mill shooter)
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Did you actually throw the rock? If so, you sir, are a racist.

I'm kidding.

Personally, I found BioShock Infinite to be slightly racial. The Implications were there, just not truly acted upon; However, the timeline the game was based after- racism, or simply racial stereotypes, was the norm, so it didn't feel out of place at all.

lol...
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