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I am looking for 2 X 1GB DDR2 533/677/800 RAM for my E6600 which is not going to be overclocked. I think DDR2 533 will be sufficient because by default FSB:RAM will be 1:1. However..it would be nice to get something better.
So please..anyone came across any good deals for around $200?
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A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $199.99

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $219.99
    
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post #3 of 15
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Would it be necessary to get DDR2 800 or even DDR2 677 if I plan to run the E6600 on stock. Since FSB is 266, DDR2 533 will give a 1:1 ratio directly. Your opinion Chozart?
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post #4 of 15
True, but find a decent DDR2 533 kit that is significantly cheaper
Ok, maybe this one: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) $174.99


and running RAM on 4:5 (DDR2 667) or 2:3 (DDR2 800) does give some performance increase! I tested RAM at DDR2 667 and DDR2 1000 (FSB and CPU clock speeds equal in both cases), and had a 0.25 seconds difference in my SuperPi 1MB times

And finally, if you ever get an overclockable board for it... at least the RAM won't old you back
    
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post #5 of 15
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Whoa whoa...rewind a little. I considered the future overclock part. But the divider part. Isn't it always preferred to be 1:1? You just said it "does give some performance increase!" Do you mean performance increase over 1:1? ..4:5 and 2:3..we're getting farther away from 1:1. Can you elaborate a little on the performance part?
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1:1 has always been the preferred setting (as opposed to 4:3 and other dividers in favor of the CPU).

However, now we actually also have the option to set a divider in favor of the RAM! Thus, CPU:RAM = 4:5 or CPU:RAM = 2:3 (previous post). With AMD rigs it didn't matter that much, since they like tight timings, so staying 1:1 with tighter timigns was actually better. With Intel it's different, since Intel LOVES bandwidth. Thus, if you can get faster RAM (esp. at the same timings, since it still matters a little bit, but even at slightly looser timings it'll still perform well), you see a slightly better performance.

I ran a 1:1 situation, with the FSB at 333MHz, CPU at 3.0GHz, and RAM at DDR2 667 speeds. Then, I ran a 2:3 situation, with FSB at 333MHz, CPU at 3.0GHz, and RAM at DDR2 1000 speeds. A 0.3 seconds improvement in SuperPi 1MB was the result. On the other hand, CPU scores in 3DMark06 did not change (apparently not as RAM sensitive).

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post #7 of 15
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So this ultimately means..AMD should stick to 1:1 meanwhile with Intel CPUs, I should get my RAM to the highest possible?
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post #8 of 15
If you run the CPU at stock, basically, yes.

If you overclock, knock back to 1:1 and clock the heck outta that CPU... Core 2 Duos overclock so high that you'll likely can't run the RAM any faster than 1:1 anyways when you overclock
    
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post #9 of 15
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Right now I'm at 3.4 with a 378 FSB. 1:1 Ratio, so RAM is also 378. Does this technically mean the RAM is underclocked since it is supposed to be at 400? As a derivative from what you said earlier, even when OC'd, it is best to get a 2:3 or 4:5 divider [if possible] rather than 1:1, correct?
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post #10 of 15
Unless you spring for some crazy RAM lol. Stuff that will do 1000+Mhz. Either way, in REALITY a 1:1 ratio is the best. Despite Chozart's synthetic benchmark findings.. Tee Hee
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