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Poll Results: Get an HD 7950 CrossFire or GTX 770 SLI or worth the wait for 8970/8950?

 
  • 27% (15)
    HD 7950 Crossfire (Read Post First)
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    GTX 770 SLI (Read Post First)
  • 40% (22)
    Wait for HD 8000 (Read Post First)
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post #1 of 47
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Salam,

I am building a new rig for myself with an i7 3930k, P9X79 Pro etc.

I am now stuck between which graphics card to choose. Before the launch of the GTX 770 (Today) I was set on the 7950 CrossFire. But after the launch, the GTX 770 performed a great show. I have one problem though, the VRAM. I am buying this PC to last through the PS4/Xbox One era (Around 2 years after the latter launch when the developers close in at the 100% utilization mark) I want to still have the optimum performance preferrably 60+ FPS. It will be at 1080p, and I don't use MSAA ( I am nearly sure that affects VRAM alot) I will be using SMAA exclusively thanks to SweetFX. Back on topic, will the 2GB VRAM on the GTX 770 a bottleneck? Should I wait for the Radeon HD 8000 series (I have already waited 3-4 years with a 5450 so more waiting is kinda largely unpleasant unless it's 100% worth it which is impossible to say). So yeah, please help as I already ordered the rest of the parts. BTW, the only company that has local stock here is Gigabyte. So it's the GTX 770 Gigabyte WindForce or the Radeon HD 7950 Gigabyte WindForce. Thanks!!
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post #2 of 47
don't xfire/sli
get a 780 and call it a day.

i am also enjoying my over clocked sapphire HD 7950. first AMD card in a long time and i'm very pleased with it. wouldn't xfire because unless they fixed it since the last time i checked, it doesnt work well. i believe SLI scales better. however i would still just get a 780.
Edited by discoprince - 5/30/13 at 9:46pm
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post #4 of 47
im sure a CF of 7950 will destroy a single GTX780 by a lot

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post #5 of 47
as of now AMD has not released the CF frame pacing driver. so if you buy today go with GTX 770 WF3. but if you can wait till July looks like there is competition coming.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1395229/chiphel-new-specs-of-radeon-hd8000-leaked

even otherwise the CF frame pacing driver should be available and tested by tech sites. the RAM as you mention is a problem with next gen consoles having 8 GB unified RAM. Xbox One reserves 5GB for games while PS4 reserves 7GB.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/3

also if you can grab a Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB now , then go ahead.
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post #6 of 47
Regarding compute performance, the GTX 770 beats the 7950 right now. It is a better buy if you want the most performance. The 2 GB VRAM should not be a problem at 1080p even with a lot of SMAA in like 90% of stock setting (no outside texture, extraa AA, etc modding) gaming. Certain situations will require more VRAM. If you plan on heavily modding your games with textures then 2 GB might not be enough. My friend, for example, keeps maxing out his crossfired 6970's 2 GB of VRAM in Skyrim where he added about 15 GB of texture mods and increased the view and rendering distance considerably. However, that applies to today. Who knows where graphics will be in 2, 3, 4, or 5 years? The extra gigabyte in the 7950 might be more beneficial in the long run. Thus, the GTX 770 vs 7950 becomes a question of where you would rather invest, the processing power or extra VRAM. I would personally go for the 770's right now regardless of the VRAM because I don't see myself utilizing all that VRAM for my purposes. I'm still using a GTX 295 that has only 896 MB of VRAM per GPU.
As for the HD 8000 series, if these rumours
http://www.overclock.net/t/1395229/chiphel-new-specs-of-radeon-hd8000-leaked
are substantial, those cards will be quite competitive at really nice prices. However, they are, according to this rumour, due in Q3 which means you will have to wait for at least the rest of Q2, some time till release in Q3, and then if you are lucky they will hit the market right away and you can snag one or two. There may be a lag before the hit the market or just get sold out quickly.
So if you are willing to wait a few months more and speculate a bit, the HD 8000's are definitely better cards to get and should pay off with better performance and larger VRAM capacities.
post #7 of 47
Thread Starter 
So if you were in my shoes, what would you do? If the one more GB is really beneficial, I would get it as difference between 100 and 110 FPS is irrelevant. Or is it smart to just get a 7770 for example and get a 8970 later? And the the new IVB-e are around the corner. Why is it so hard now?!
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post #8 of 47
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

as of now AMD has not released the CF frame pacing driver. so if you buy today go with GTX 770 WF3. but if you can wait till July looks like there is competition coming.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1395229/chiphel-new-specs-of-radeon-hd8000-leaked

even otherwise the CF frame pacing driver should be available and tested by tech sites. the RAM as you mention is a problem with next gen consoles having 8 GB unified RAM. Xbox One reserves 5GB for games while PS4 reserves 7GB.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/3

also if you can grab a Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB now , then go ahead.

In my thought process I only included the GTX 770 2 GB edition, HD 7950, and the HD 8970/8950. The GTX 770 4GB would definitely be a much better buy right now. IF they can be found of course. rolleyes.gif
post #9 of 47
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My most important game I will be playing on is an extremely modded Skyrim. So yeah....
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post #10 of 47
I put playing Skyrim on hold because HD texture mods and ENB shaders plus grass mods require massive performance and lots of vram. There are reports of more than 5 GB VRAM being utilized in heavily nodded Skyrim. Right now only Titan SLI can handle that, but I refuse to pay €2000 for a gimped gaming card. Thus I decided to wait for 20 nm cards, even if they come out next year.
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