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Hey guys. For 2 years i have been using an OCZ Vertex 2E 64GB as my primary hard drive on my Intel 775 rig. It was fine at the start but nowadays it seems that it's starting to lose performance and also it makes me feel the space is too tight as i can't install the games i want. I use my computer mostly for games so i think i would see a big difference if i could move my games to my SSD.
So the point is that i saw the Samsung 840 Pro in Amazon for 97$ for the 128GB version and 170$ for the 256GB with Free shipping. So my question is should i buy 2 SSDs at 128GB and use RAID 0 setup (if its possible on my rig, my mobo is Gigabyte EP45-UD3P) or should i buy a single 128GB or going for a single 256GB drive?
I think any of those options will be a good improvement over my current SSD.
Thanks in advance wink.gif
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i would just go with a single 256GB SSD and save $24 bucks. it will be plenty fast enough for what you want even tho you have SATA 3Gb/s ports.
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Yea but if i want to upgrade my Rig in the future to a Sata 6-Gpbs isnt it better to go on RAID? I mean..i wont notice the difference in speed?
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Originally Posted by Heartl3ss View Post

Yea but if i want to upgrade my Rig in the future to a Sata 6-Gpbs isnt it better to go on RAID? I mean..i wont notice the difference in speed?

I recommend going for the single 256GB now. If you want RAID-0 down the line, then you can add another 840 Pro 256GB (you'd probably be able to get it for $120-150 once they go on clearance) giving you a total of 512GB in RAID-0. smile.gif

Sure, with your SATA2 ports, 2-way RAID-0 of 128GB drives will give you faster sequential performance than a single 256GB SSD. However, that really only matters if you're reading/writing really, really, really large files to your SSD RAID to/from a source/target capable of the same speeds as your array or faster (e.g. another SSD array, RAM, etc). Based on some of the game IO profiles done by Tom's Hardware, I don't think you'll notice much of a difference between a RAID-0 SSD compared to just a single SSD when it comes to gaming even if you're still capped at 250MB/s per port on SATA2.
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Raid SSD is just stupid, because no body write single GIANT files back and forth. Raid doesn't improve random read/write either, which is the only important thing.. It also increases access time, even if the access time is "small" for an ssd, These were still the only worthwhile attribute of ssds, which are violated by current implementation of "ssd-raid" rolleyes.gif
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I generally agree that for most PC users, SSDs in RAID 0 do not provide increased performance.

But, I don't agree that RAID increases access time, which is displayed in various benchmark programs like AS SSD. Access time clearly decreases for RAID volumes compared to single SSDs. Checking benchmarks in this forum's AS SSD benchmark thread will show reduced access times for RAID volumes, particularly for write access time.

High resolution picture and video files can be hundreds of MBs or more, so increasing the large file sequential read and write speeds will speed up working with them.
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I generally agree that for most PC users, SSDs in RAID 0 do not provide increased performance.

But, I don't agree that RAID increases access time, which is displayed in various benchmark programs like AS SSD. Access time clearly decreases for RAID volumes compared to single SSDs. Checking benchmarks in this forum's AS SSD benchmark thread will show reduced access times for RAID volumes, particularly for write access time.

High resolution picture and video files can be hundreds of MBs or more, so increasing the large file sequential read and write speeds will speed up working with them.

Hmm Now I'm interested in raid-ing my 256 pro
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Raid SSD is just stupid, because no body write single GIANT files back and forth. Raid doesn't improve random read/write either, which is the only important thing.. It also increases access time, even if the access time is "small" for an ssd, These were still the only worthwhile attribute of ssds, which are violated by current implementation of "ssd-raid" rolleyes.gif

RAID-0 absolutely improves random read/write time. You have two drives seeking and writing/reading simultaneously.
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I recommend going for the single 256GB now. If you want RAID-0 down the line, then you can add another 840 Pro 256GB (you'd probably be able to get it for $120-150 once they go on clearance) giving you a total of 512GB in RAID-0. smile.gif

Wait...i thought that RAID 0 takes 2 drives of the same capacity and the while increasing the speeds the capacity is reduced to the one of one drive...So if i add 2 SSD drives of 256GB on RAID 0, the system drive will be in total 256GB..right?
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Wait...i thought that RAID 0 takes 2 drives of the same capacity and the while increasing the speeds the capacity is reduced to the one of one drive...So if i add 2 SSD drives of 256GB on RAID 0, the system drive will be in total 256GB..right?

That's RAID 1.

RAID 1 takes both drives and mirrors them, that way in the event of a disk failure, the other disk will still have the data.

RAID 0 has no mirroring, and therefor offers no data protection. In fact, according to statistics, RAID 0 actually increases your chance of data loss since two drives with independent failure rates are in play. However, RAID 0 stripes data across both disks, meaning that both disks are used to read and write data, and their capacities are additive.

RAID 10 is actually 1+0, meaning the disks are mirrored, and then the mirrors are striped. Low capacity, but high performance.

RAID 50 and 60 are actually 5+0 and 6+0, meaning there are parity disks and stripe disks, and they are mirrored. Balance between disk space and performance.
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