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So basically here's the deal:

I leave my computer on 24/7, and every time i get my desktop all fixed up, the next day or so SOME icons get moved around.
I've googled some, and i only find 2 of the same answers by people telling me A. Its a virus, or B. Its themes changing icons.
I can assure you i do not have any sort of virus/malware, and I've already deselected windows from allowing themes to change my desktop icons.

Here is how my desktop was about 4 days ago: http://oi43.tinypic.com/2ue76vl.jpg

Here is how my desktop is now: http://oi42.tinypic.com/5nr9k8.jpg

Any help would be appreciated...
post #2 of 10
    If Explorer.exe (your desktop and Windows Explorer windows) crashes, it will fail to save the positions for the icons that you moved since the last logoff/shutdown/restart.  When it reloads, those icons will revert back to their old positions.  Perhaps that's the problem.  Is it the same icons always reverting an on old position, or is it different icons being moved to different positions?
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Well if you look at the screenshots, its like a group of the icons are being moved around. they're not being moved to an older location.
As it keeps changing daily even tho im not moving anything around.
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It might be the case that your video driver crashes, and then restarts. If so, it might be setting something like 640x480 as a temporary resolution in the half second it takes it to re-initialize. In that time, Windows would re-arrange the icons to fit on the smaller res, but when it changes back to normal resolution, Windows wouldn't re-arrange them again, because it doesn't know how they are supposed to be. So it leaves them where they are. smile.gif
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It might be the case that your video driver crashes, and then restarts...

    Explorer is supposed to restore icons to the correct positions when the screen resolution changes.  However, it's stupid enough not to save the positions for the old resolution before loading the positions for the new resolution.  Try moving the icons back where you want them, and then log off (to save your most recent icon layout) and back on and see if that helps.
    Explorer has another bug that causes it to sometimes not reload the icon positions for a different resolution.  The screenshots (I hate that photo sharing site, so I didn't look at the pictures initially) don't show the icons all clipped off to a smaller area, so we're not dealing with that bug.
 
Edited by Techie007 - 5/31/13 at 5:27am
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I will try that, i also notice windows doesnt save my settings for the bottom right of the taskbar, like "Show notifications only" ETC. i already have to set it back to "Show icons and notifications"
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    If you have important programs running and don't want to log off, you can restart Explorer.  Left-click on the desktop and then press [Alt]+[F4].  Then hold [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Shift] down and click [Cancel].  Explorer will save its settings and exit.  Now press [Ctrl]+[Shift]+[Esc] to open Task Manager.  Click "File\New task" and type "explorer" and press [Enter].

    If the problem with settings persists (particularly with the taskbar), it may be a problem with corrupted permissions in the registry.  I encountered a computer that had a problem where some programs settings wouldn't stick, and other programs wouldn't install correctly.  I eventually traced the problem to corrupted registry permissions.  The HKLM\SOFTWARE and HKCU branches only had read access granted to Administrators and SYSTEM, nothing else.  The computer wouldn't have worked at all for a standard user.
 
Edited by Techie007 - 5/31/13 at 5:40am
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    If you have important programs running and don't want to log off, you can restart Explorer.  Left-click on the desktop and then press [Alt]+[F4].  Then hold [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Shift] down and click [Cancel].  Explorer will save its settings and exit.  Now press [Ctrl]+[Shift]+[Esc] to open Task Manager.  Click "File\New task" and type "explorer" and press [Enter].

    If the problem with settings persists (particularly with the taskbar), it may be a problem with corrupted permissions in the registry.  I encountered a computer that had a problem where some programs settings wouldn't stick, and other programs wouldn't install correctly.  I eventually traced the problem to corrupted registry permissions.  The HKLM\SOFTWARE and HKCU branches only had read access granted to Administrators and SYSTEM, nothing else.  The computer wouldn't have worked at all for a standard user.
 

That sounds EXACTLY like my problem. I have Lots of problems with permissions (not letting me delete/ install stuff) Its random, and extremely annoying. do you know how to fix that?
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    Well, there are permissions on the disk, and there are permissions in the registry.  I'll start with the registry.
    I will mention that with UAC (user account control) enabled, there are a couple of places in the steps below where you will need to take an extra step that is not mentioned.  Usually, you will have to click a button labled [Edit] or [Change] that has the UAC shield next to it in order to unlock a setting.

1: Press [Win]+[R], type "regedit" and press [Enter].
2: When Registry Editor opens, right-click "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" and click "Permissions..."  If you're not using Windows 8, click [Advanced] near the bottom of the page.  You should get a dialog that looks like this (Vista):


3: Click on the "Owner" tab.  The owner should be "Administrators".  If it is, skip to step 6.


4: Click "Other users or groups..." (or whatever the "Change owner" button is named in your OS).
5: A dialog titled "Select User or Group" should appear, with a text field where you can type a name.  Type "Administrators" without the quotes and click [OK].


6:Tick the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox (see the picture in step 3), and click [OK].
7: Click [OK] (or the close button, if needed) on all the dialogs, until you're back to Registry Editor.
8: Repeat step 2, and then continue.


9: As you see in the image above, there should be four permission entries: {your login name}, SYSTEM and Administrators with Full Control permission, and RESTRICTED with Read permission.  All of the entries should have "This key and subkeys" for the scope (Apply To).  If your permissions are correct here, skip to step 15.
10: Click the [Remove] button until the list is empty.


11: Click [Add], type your login name, and click [OK].


12: A dialog will pop up; tick the Full Control checkbox.  Make sure that the other options are just like shown below, and then click [OK]:


13: Repeat steps 11 and 12, but enter "SYSTEM" instead of your login name in step 11.
14: Repeat steps 11 and 12, but enter "Administrators" instead of your login name in step 11.
15: Tick the Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all descendants... checkbox.  At this point, the permissions dialog should look like the picture below.  Click [OK] (you may have to click [OK] on another dialog or two also).


16: Now that you're back to Registry Editor, double-click "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" and then right-click "SOFTWARE" and click "Permissions..."
17: Repeat steps 3 through 7.
18: Repeat step 16, and then continue.


19: As you see in the image above, there should be four permissions entries here as well: SYSTEM and Administrators with Full Control permission, CREATOR OWNER with special permission, and Users with Read permission.  If the permissions are correct, skip to step 25.
20: Click the [Remove] button until the list is empty (just like in step 10).
21: Add SYSTEM and grant full control (just like in step 12).
22: Add Administrators and grant full control.
23: Add CREATOR OWNER and grant full control, but change the "Apply to" scope to "Subkeys only"


24: Add Users and grant Query Value, Enumerate Subkeys, Notify and Read Control permissions.


25: Tick the "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all descendants..." check box.  Your permissions page should look something like the picture below.  Click [OK].


    That should fix most all Registry permission problems.  File permissions are not affected by this, however.  If you would like, I will address those after I hear back from you.
 
Edited by Techie007 - 6/1/13 at 10:05am
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Thank you so much for the informative guide, unfortunately I wont be able to try this until Later tonight. Ill post and send you a message on the results. thanks again!
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