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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post

Link? Perhaps there was a problem with a certain kind of sensor that needed a firmware fix for some reason, but image quality is determined by the sensor quality - pure and simple. Anything beyond that is just altering the original image which, as was noted, can be done in any number of pieces of superior software. There also is no reason why whatever the "effect" is, that was originally responded to, couldn't be done through a 3rd-party camera app or editing app from the market.
Apparently, there was something wrong with the auto select on ISO/shutter speed settings in isolated conditions when taking a photo. Definitely helped with the contrast levels, as displayed by some sites.

http://www.androidpit.com/htc-one-update-camera
http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/30/htc-one-camera-after-update
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-and-galaxy-s4s-cameras-go-head-to-head-after-software-intervention-check-out-the-samples/ > Sharpness and noise level change.
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post #52 of 74
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This is stupid. Why remove functionality?

Just give a stock Android with the software necessary to use all the phone capabilities doh.gif
They can't easily... proprietary features means IP or licensing restrictions.
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post #53 of 74
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Apparently, there was something wrong with the auto select on ISO/shutter speed settings in isolated conditions when taking a photo. Definitely helped with the contrast levels, as displayed by some sites.

http://www.androidpit.com/htc-one-update-camera
http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/30/htc-one-camera-after-update
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-and-galaxy-s4s-cameras-go-head-to-head-after-software-intervention-check-out-the-samples/ > Sharpness and noise level change.

Alright.. so their software was unoptimized or bugged. I'm failing to see how them righting this wrong means their phone's cameras have some unique "effect" that makes them superior.
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post #54 of 74
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Yeah, its the "boom sound", i.e. the front facing speakers that really makes the AV experience on the HTC One that much better than anything else on the market.

I own one, all it does is put on a software equalizer that makes the music sound crap when you have it off.
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

This is stupid. Why remove functionality?

Just give a stock Android with the software necessary to use all the phone capabilities doh.gif

This is just a matter of software, worst case scenario is we get new versions of Android without this stuff which is then ported once another phone that contains the same chips has that version. All in all, Zoe is over-rated (IMO, I've never bothered to use it beyond testing to see if it works), Beats means it has a decent sound design but the software thing is just to make it sound worse when you turn it off deliberately...SQ on CM10.1 is equal to stock Sense with Beats on for example and the IR remote and FM Radio I can live without for a few months.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

So people clamor for stock Android and then get mad that they only get stock Android? Makes sense... rolleyes.gif

People seem to not realize that as soon as Sense in general is released it may be possible to selectively readd any feature from it into Android.
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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

When I had my htc i enjoyed beats though and without the cam software that 4Mp camera is useless.

Did you ever run CM on it? The camera doesn't feel much worse with CM10.1 than it does using Sense...It's missing a few features but IQ is virtually equal unless it's extremely low light (Streetlight, at night going through the gaps in a curtain...Even then my S2 didn't show anything in that situation so its an improvement) where it gets grainy.
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Compared to vanilla Android? Like hell it does.

I've used it with both, it really doesn't.
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Its not it. The image quality looks the same even with other apps. Its the extra effect that HTC and Samsung do behind the app to enhance it. The Stock Android just takes RAW photos.

Google+ auto-enhances...And besides, they don't really add up to much; I haven't noticed much of a difference at all since I went to CM10.1. The Camera is amazing quality either way.
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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

All except the regular updates. reason being it will not be Google's Htc one.

Except Stock Android means HTC doesn't need to firstly bake the drivers, sense, etc in then secondly the carriers have to put in their software...Even if we don't get new releases on the night ala a Nexus device we'll get them a hell of a lot more quickly now.
    
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This is stupid. Why remove functionality?

Just give a stock Android with the software necessary to use all the phone capabilities doh.gif

What part of "Nexus Experience" did you not understand? Zoe, Beats, all these things are HTC's proprietary things, and the Google Edition is handled by Google alone.

So... Duh? How many people think CUDA is open source too? rolleyes.gif

Oh, and the S4 won't be any better, it'll lose all proprietary things too. Also duh.
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Originally Posted by Lime View Post

Pfft, everyone wants everything both ways.

1.) "I WANT STOCK ANDROID ON A FLAGSHIP"
2.) Manufacturers collaborates with Google and releases phone with AOSP without any proprietary frameworks
3.) "I WANT MY PROPRIETARY FEATURES ON AOSP"

What the hell, people? You can't have it both ways.

Well... You can... You just have to wait on XDA to do it.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

So people clamor for stock Android and then get mad that they only get stock Android? Makes sense... rolleyes.gif

I know right?
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

Sooo... you want stock Android plus the software to run the phone features?

No problem, there is this thing called Sense...

No.

They are stating that the IR controller won't work, neither will the added camera functionalities. Beats I do not care about.

Why not include the .apk for the IR remote and Zoe? no need to add the full Sense, which slows the phones to a crawl. Lately it has gotten better, but it is still short of good.

Becasue HTC plays no role, at all, in the software of these.

It is Stock Android.

Do you know what that means?
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

Because they were asked for stock Android.

Pure, unadulterated, nothing added Android. If they added in the software to make the features work it wouldn't be stock Android would it?

Pure android would mean, updates on time. Which we all know is not going to happen.

I have used many Asop roms with bare look and has many features tucked in.

Ya? How many of those were Stock Android.

Oh right, none. rolleyes.gif

My old Inspire runs IceColdSandwich which kept the stock look and packed many features from AOSP and CM into it. I didn't try to claim it was stock though.
Edited by KyadCK - 5/31/13 at 10:53pm
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When I first got my GS3 I absolutely hated Touchwiz so I flashed a ROM with the stock android theme along with a bunch of other custom features. Fast forward a year and I unrooted my GS3, flashed back to TW and I'm in awe. It is so much better than stock android, so much more user-friendly. With the new multi-window update there's absolutely no competition. They improved ALOT on smoothness ( no lag now), the keyboard is miles better, it's much easier to navigate in a hurry, zero input lag, AMAZING video player that can "detach" a window etc. etc.

So I don't know why anyone want stock android over TW.
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post #57 of 74
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This is stupid. Why remove functionality?

They're not removing anything, it's just designed for their proprietary framework and doesn't work on AOSP. It's the same for all manufacturer's phones (unless they're rewriting it).
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lol, I knew Artikbots comment was going to be quoted a bunch rolleyes.gif
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No Beats!? Whatever will we do?

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Originally Posted by Lime View Post

Pfft, everyone wants everything both ways.

1.) "I WANT STOCK ANDROID ON A FLAGSHIP"
2.) Manufacturers collaborates with Google and releases phone with AOSP without any proprietary frameworks
3.) "I WANT MY PROPRIETARY FEATURES ON AOSP"

What the hell, people? You can't have it both ways.

lol its just hard to make consumers happy
     
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