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Swtiching back to team green after hating my 7970's.

I have a single 780 on the way, gaming at 2560x1600.

Question is this - I also have a GTX 280 kicking around, is it at all worth it using it as a physx card? Or will it just be a giant heater in my case?
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For me personally I don't think its worth it, I would just stick to the one GTX 780 it can handle any game with Physx no problem.
 
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A GTX200 series card would hold back the 780.
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A GTX200 series card would hold back the 780.

Kind of what I feared. Is there even a card that wouldn't? Hence the title of the thread to some point.
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Kind of what I feared. Is there even a card that wouldn't? Hence the title of the thread to some point.

Probably as lowest I would touch is a 560Ti.

I have a 650Ti as a back up and PhysX card.

Once I get my GTX 780 gonna do a round up test with the oldest card being a 570 to Titan's to see what's a good PPU card. And from older test tho the utilization is very low on the cards that are used as a PPU but higher the core clock the better it was.
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Probably as lowest I would touch is a 560Ti.

I have a 650Ti as a back up and PhysX card.

Once I get my GTX 780 gonna do a round up test with the oldest card being a 570 to Titan's to see what's a good PPU card. And from older test tho the utilization is very low on the cards that are used as a PPU but higher the core clock the better it was.

I just got a 780, I guess I'll try throwing my 670 in the system before I get rid of it to see what happens. It's not so much how much the physx card gets used itself, but how much that frees up your main card. I'm doubtful it will really make much difference though.
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post #7 of 21
A GTX280 is just heat as a PhysX card. I suggest a 660 or 650ti, you really want a card that you can game on individually but still runs cool at stock. The performance gap between a 280 and a 780 is too great and would just hinder the 780, which can do physx easily on its own.

A 560 or 650 may also work, but the gains start to become marginal with a weaker card.
Of course having a 680 as a physx card with a 780 is stupid overkill too tongue.gif
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No such thing as overkill...
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I could never understand physx. So from what you guys are the saying, a large gap between your primary gpu and physx gpu will affect physx calculations speed? Does that mean that in the future, if I were to buy the next nvidia flagship gpu, my dedicated physx card requirements will go up too in order to lessen the gap? Is this because the main gpu still needs to do some of the physx processing and a slower dedicated physx card could affect that?

Sorry if that's a lot of questions. Just curious since I never tried using a dedicated physx gpu yet.
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If your main GPU is say a GTX 780 at 1300Mhz and your PhysX GPU a GTX 260 216.

The GTX 780 will spit out images faster and render crap way before the 260 has a chance to calculate the PhsyX. In doing so the GTX 780 will slow down to the level of the 260. That's how I understand it in the simplest terms.

In doing so you're hindering the 780 that could do all that and calculate faster than having the 260 which is holding it back. So yes sometimes its better off letting the cards do all the work than adding a PPU.

Usually a nice rule of thumb is to pair with the latest two generations back. In this case a 500 series.
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