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I just believe that, I could be wrong just an opinion. The reasoning is, Intel's new processors they are pushing out are 8 core.
There are no Haswell CPU's currently on the market with more than four cores. So far, the only CPU's with more than six cores that Intel has ever made are server processors. I haven't heard anything about that changing anytime soon.
there has been tobs of rumors about ivy bridge E 8 cores more thab likely gonna happen to.

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I just believe that, I could be wrong just an opinion. The reasoning is, Intel's new processors they are pushing out are 8 core. The next gen consoles are going to be 8 core, so games will utilize 8 cores in the future. I don't mean AMD won't push out others, but i think their flagships will be 8 core.

Intel won't be pushing out an 8 core consumer k sku unless amds steamroller blows the doors off Haswell. Now amd could easily do this with a 12 core steamroller but the possibility of that happening is slim to none.

5ghz vishera should give ivy a run for its money but I still see a 4770k being a good chunk faster

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post #52 of 57
Just want to remind, that TDP by Intel is "Thermal Design power" which means how many watts will be needed to cool down the processor, not the actual power consumption...

Specs provided by AMD is true peak Power consumption.
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Just want to remind, that TDP by Intel is "Thermal Design power" which means how many watts will be needed to cool down the processor, not the actual power consumption

This is not correct, not even close. You can cool a 125W TDP CPU with just about any amount of power from 0W (big passive heatsink) to 5W (large heatsink with fan) to hundreds of watts (active cooling). TDP is definitely meant to serve as an approximation of power the processor will draw under TDP measurement conditions. Those conditions are meant to approximate the maximum, typically achievable power draw a user is likely to generate but may not represent the true absolute maximum draw the processor is capable of.

Remember that a CPU doesn't emit any meaningful amount of energy other than heat, so power consumption and heat output are more or less a 1:1 relationship. The point of the TDP specification is to let system manufacturers know how large their thermal solution for a system needs to be at a minimum. It might also be useful when designing power regulation circuitry, but I suspect those engineers use a different number more representative of the theoretical maximum power consumption multiplied by a safety margin.
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Ok, I say it less simple...

Each CPU produces some heat as a side product of its operations. TDP is this value in watts, under stock frequency, voltage and theoretically highest possible utilization. And yes this value is used to design cooling solutions.
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I just believe that, I could be wrong just an opinion. The reasoning is, Intel's new processors they are pushing out are 8 core. The next gen consoles are going to be 8 core, so games will utilize 8 cores in the future. I don't mean AMD won't push out others, but i think their flagships will be 8 core.

I've seen ZERO 8 core chips from intel on the drawing board or anywhere. 8 THREAD maybe, but all the i7-4k are 6 core max. Ram choked compared to the LGA2011 as well.
That said I've seen ZERO 8 core chips from AMD... On a core-to-core-at-clock basis, Poopdriver and Bulldumper don't stand a chance against my 1090 Thuban.
Overclocking the Poopdrivers seems to have some clock issues as well.


For whomever up there said there was no real difference between a 3930 and 3960.... lol. Put a better heatsink on it and try again, compound compression and integrity are VERY sensitive. I reapplied the H100i four times before the temp dropped and I wasn't bouncing off the overheat. The standard H100 was making it idle with one core at 72°, now it pimps at 56° hard over stock with no throttle-back. With dumb Geil 1600 ram its performing up at the best benchmarks I've seen.

This box I've got an FX 8350 on an H80i and its just not stable over 4.4 (not including the clock timing errors in some games)

I don't see any need for more than 6/12 combination in CPU's. I've yet to meet a program that more than 6% of the market uses that can fully utilize that much in a production or gaming situation.


My i7-3960X does SMP for more points per day than my 1ghz titan, what more do you want biggrin.gif
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I've seen ZERO 8 core chips from intel on the drawing board or anywhere. 8 THREAD maybe, but all the i7-4k are 6 core max. Ram choked compared to the LGA2011 as well.
That said I've seen ZERO 8 core chips from AMD... On a core-to-core-at-clock basis, Poopdriver and Bulldumper don't stand a chance against my 1090 Thuban.
Overclocking the Poopdrivers seems to have some clock issues as well.


For whomever up there said there was no real difference between a 3930 and 3960.... lol. Put a better heatsink on it and try again, compound compression and integrity are VERY sensitive. I reapplied the H100i four times before the temp dropped and I wasn't bouncing off the overheat. The standard H100 was making it idle with one core at 72°, now it pimps at 56° hard over stock with no throttle-back. With dumb Geil 1600 ram its performing up at the best benchmarks I've seen.

This box I've got an FX 8350 on an H80i and its just not stable over 4.4 (not including the clock timing errors in some games)

I don't see any need for more than 6/12 combination in CPU's. I've yet to meet a program that more than 6% of the market uses that can fully utilize that much in a production or gaming situation.


My i7-3960X does SMP for more points per day than my 1ghz titan, what more do you want biggrin.gif

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post #57 of 57
An unlocked 8 core Haswell E next xmass, you say, Stay Puft?

You can hard push the 8 core sister to the 3960 to about 3.9 solid with a little board tweaking now.
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