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Hi, I have always used a i7 (now not always, and I have only used a 920 d/0) and I am sad to have to say today I found out not only did my MB died last week, but my 920 died too, and the funny thing is that I RMA my MB got a new one, but my 920 quite me!!! So, I am having to move on to a new Chipset. And since I am, I want to know if all I do is the following:] Mainly Gaming (MMOs; EQ2, WoW, SWtOR, etc, FPS; BioShock Inf, Dishonored, Rage, Skyrim, Strategies, etc), listen to music (both stream and download), what Vid (netflix, youtube, etc) maybe sometime mess with change or editing pic but not alot. And sometimes I do all alot of this at once, like listen to music while playing a game and watching a vid on info about what I am doing ingame.

So the question is which one will do what I need it to do, i5 or i7? I like to run my games as max as I can. I am stripping as much of the old system in Sig as I can short of the old ssd (I am looking at getting a new one, the old one died too) I also might move to 2400 ram from the 1600 ram.

Also since I am moving from old chip to new, what MB company is a great place to get boards since EVGA has moved from lifetime warrenties. I was thinking of going Asus, but I hear bad things about theyre customer service. But just want to get a great board for what I am looking to do.



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an I5-4670k haswel CPU will be great for gaming
Checkout the new Gigabyte Z87 motherboards such as the Z87x-UD3H for example or higher.
Edited by stubass - 5/31/13 at 1:26pm
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The i5 is a much more cost-effective solution for gaming these days, as the i7's only additional benefits (hyper-threading and going from 6MB to 8MB of L3 cache) isn't worth the extra ~$100.

As for motherboard makers, unfortunately EVGA has fallen on hard times in terms of quality (especially their BIOS). Their video cards are excellent as ever, but for now avoid their mobos. The four motherboard brands to consider would be Gigabyte, ASUS, MSI, and ASRock (in order of my personal opinion of them).

As you may be aware, Intel is launching their new "Haswell" line of CPUs (with the accompanying Z87 chipset for motherboards) in 2-3 days' time, so I'd pick one of those up after launch. Here's what I'd recommend picking based on current previews:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
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And to make sure, I know this is chip, but on a MB with 3.0 xpress you can use a 2.0 vcard in the slot right? and how much does going from 16x16x to x8x8 mess with your performance? I am going off ivy bridge stuff since the haswell isnt out yet.

My worry is I am going to have to run it on stock air for a while until I can get a WC block for it. And seeing how it seems to be running real hot. I might be able to get a HKiller conv kit to change my 1366 block to 1555 (at least I hope), if not I might be able to get a big fan to help cool it better. BUt at some point I want to get to about 4.5ghz.
    
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an I5-4670k haswel CPU will be great for gaming
Checkout the new Gigabyte Z87 motherboards such as the Z87x-UD3H for example or higher.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but haven't the Haswell chips been showing a slight decrease in performance compared to their Ivy Bridge parts, except when it comes to the iGPU?
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yes, you can run run PCIe 2.0 cards on PCIe 3.0 slots and vice versa.
the stock cooler will be fine untill you sort your loop out, just dont OC yet.
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And to make sure, I know this is chip, but on a MB with 3.0 xpress you can use a 2.0 vcard in the slot right? and how much does going from 16x16x to x8x8 mess with your performance? I am going off ivy bridge stuff since the haswell isnt out yet.

My worry is I am going to have to run it on stock air for a while until I can get a WC block for it. And seeing how it seems to be running real hot. I might be able to get a HKiller conv kit to change my 1366 block to 1555 (at least I hope), if not I might be able to get a big fan to help cool it better. BUt at some point I want to get to about 4.5ghz.

You can use a PCIe 2.0 card in a 3.0 slot just fine. Also, running @ x8/x8 isn't a bottleneck for any current graphics card.

Running it on the stock cooler will be perfectly fine on stock speeds. Be advised that the new socket is 1150, which should be identical in terms of aftermarket cooling apparatus to the 1155 and 1156.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but haven't the Haswell chips been showing a slight decrease in performance compared to their Ivy Bridge parts, except when it comes to the iGPU?

There should be a slight increase in Haswell performance clock-for-clock due to its architectural changes and new instructions. Of course we'll all find out in 2 days, won't we?
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an I5-4670k haswel CPU will be great for gaming
Checkout the new Gigabyte Z87 motherboards such as the Z87x-UD3H for example or higher.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but haven't the Haswell chips been showing a slight decrease in performance compared to their Ivy Bridge parts, except when it comes to the iGPU?

i heard that somewhere but i am not sure of the validity of the claims. i am waiting for post release reviews before i will make my judgment. if it is valid then i guess i am mistaken. redface.gif
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i5. i7 has very little tangible benefits in today's games. i5s also tend to have more overclocking headroom.
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From the benchmarks and games that have come on, the ones I've seen on the news section here show it losing performance compared to it's Ivy counter part. In my own opinion the OP should just find a cheap 2500k/2600k and overclock it, he will get higher clocks then he could on Ivy, and if the rumors are true (haswell runs hotter then the blazes of hell) higher clocks then Haswell as well, balancing out the slight IPC increase of both of those chips, and saving a good deal of money to buy something else.
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Dell 17" 4:3 Trash Dell Membrane OCZ 750w Generic Mid Tower 
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Ryzen 2017
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD R7 1700 @ 3.95GHz - 1.425V Asus Prime X370 Pro Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080Ti FE 2000/6000 @ 1.025v 16GB (2x8GB) G.Skill DDR4 2933MHz CL16-16-16-35 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
BPX 120GB NVMe SSD *boot* Intel 730 Series 240GB SSD Crucial BX100 1TB SSD Asus DVDRW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-D15 Windows 10 Pro x64 Acer XG270HU 1440P 144Hz Freesync Cougar 600k Mechanical 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x1050w Antec 1100 V2 Razer Deathadder Elite Steelseries QCK Heavy 
Audio
Plantronics Rig 500e 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
Opteron 4226 6 core Valencia 2.7GHz Opteron 4226 6 core Valencia 2.7GHz Asus KCMA-D8 Nvidia GT 520 1GB DDR3 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
32GB (4GBx8) Kingston 1066 ECC DDR3 (4x) Hitachi 500GB 7200RPM HDD's out of an old NAS Lightscribe CD/DVDRW Xubuntu 16.04 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 17" 4:3 Trash Dell Membrane OCZ 750w Generic Mid Tower 
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