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Wait what? No way a 770 4GB will be a better option than SLI 2GB. I don't know a lot about the VRAM thing but going from 2GB to 4GB will be a total waste of money because you will never be able to sell your 2GB for a good price.

Deepsouth1987: Better buy a R9 290(x) or a GTX 780 (ti) if you really want to upgrade

EDIT: A realistic prediction on the 8xx series will be the end of the year, like August or September, not a few months.

Just kinda worried if i spend all that money on a 3gb 780 ti it still wouldn't be enough to raise the fps on a 5760x1080res since it only 3gb of vram.
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Wait what? No way a 770 4GB will be a better option than SLI 2GB. I don't know a lot about the VRAM thing but going from 2GB to 4GB will be a total waste of money because you will never be able to sell your 2GB for a good price.

Deepsouth1987: Better buy a R9 290(x) or a GTX 780 (ti) if you really want to upgrade

EDIT: A realistic prediction on the 8xx series will be the end of the year, like August or September, not a few months.

Ok...im gonna try not to be mean or be-little you but idk how thats gonna go....see obviously either you did not read what he wrote, or what I wrote, or have no idea what your talking about or maybe its all three so here we go!

The VRAM thing between a 2gb-4gb GTX 770 will make a HUGE ******* DIFFERENCE in this mans application....you see, BF4 on a SINGLE 1920x1080p monitor uses roughly 1.7-1.9gb of VRAM alone with everything set to its highest. This gentleman does not use a single monitor he uses three in nvidia surround, which raises the resolution and thus raises the needed VRAM to play on ultra to around 2.8ish gb... His GPU power alone is more than enough for BF4, hell my two 460's runs BF4 on ULTRA settings i just have to turn off all AA,Post AA and HBAO crap off cause that uses alot of VRAM and I use only one monitor but am limited by my 1gb VRAM...he uses three monitors but is limited by his 2gb VRAM. If he only used one monitor he would have more than enough now, But since he uses three then he needs more VRAM not more GPU power which is why he should sell his 2gb 770 for like 200-225 on ebay and take that and an extra 200 and get a 4gb 770 and save the big upgrade for the 8xx series...

and that leads me to my second rant!!!!...clearly you did not listen to what I said about the 8xx cards!!!! there is already road maps for the gtx 800 mobile gpus out and word is late feb early march when they hit, and it is never far behind that the desktop GPU's come out after the mobile ones...the one question is will the desktop ones be just a 10-15% improvement of our current 7xx cards with the same 28nm die, or will they be the 50%+ improvement NVIDIA claims is possable with the new 20nm dies that the 800 cards are suppose to have...there is no question that we will see 8xx cards of some sort before may-june...only thing is what will they be, a huge improvement with 20nm die chips or just a slight one with old 28nm chips to keep up with AMD and then the 20nm GPUs late this year...

as for the original guy who asked the first question...if you need something to run your triple monitors RIGHT NOW, then get a 770 4gb and save your big upgrade for when ever the 20nm 8xx cards come out, whether its soon or later this year
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go with the 4gb 770 you will not be disappointed...people claim steady 80-100fps in BF4 on triple monitors with them and everything on Ultra and AA and MSAA all the way up...I only say claim because i have not seen it with my own eyes so I can not confirm. I guarantee you there is no reason for a 780ti it is over kill and you will be throwing more money away...4gb of VRAM is also very "future proof" if you plan on keeping that set up for years to come.

If you have the money, buy a GTX 770 4gb, use it, you will love it, and then sell your 2gb card on ebay for like 225-250 and re-coup some of your money spent on the 4gb one...i guarantee you it will sell quick because that's cheap for that card and plenty of people who use only one monitor will want it and buy it in a heart beat.

hell i was gonna buy a 4gb 770 because i need to upgrade and am going triple monitors...but it would cost me around $550 for the card + water block, so I am buying two GTX 580 3GB cards for $400 with water blocks already....more GPU power and faster memory because of bigger MEM BUS...less MEM but faster wink.gif
Edited by combateng - 1/15/14 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by Deepsouth1987 View Post

Quick question, I run three monitors on a 5760x1080p set up. My FPS are okay playing i say around 50-60 nothing impressive. I use a GTX 770 superclocked 2gb 256bit to run all three monitors. My question is would it be better to just get another 2gb and run them in SLI or would be better to just replace that one 2gb card with a gtx 770 4gb card or just move up to 3gb 780 ti? Would more memory interface or more CUDA cores help my FPS?
4gb models of the 770 are actually some of the best setups for surround especially if your running 1080p. The Ti or even 780 are good for 1440p and up. At 1440p and up you don't need aa so it saves some on vram. I debated on going back to 770s for surround but I need the gpu power for 3 1440p 120hz monitors. If you read around most actaul recommend 770 4gb models vs 780 or ti for surround vision. Also the ti does have the full unlocked gk110 and 7 ghz mem but the mem timings were loosened quite a bit to allow them to clock that high where the 780 had tighter timing like the 770.

Definetly sell the 2gb and grab some 4gb. Judging by the new cards coming out and ports we already have from the new console some 4gb 770s should last you sometime. Bf4 is a demanding game but I have been talking about it with others and they have the same issues with low frame rates on nvidia cards. I now stay above 120 fps on ultra with 3 780Ti on 1 monitor. Hopefully dice fix this but I am thinking they did it on purpose so people would purchase amd cards.

@combateng They are doing 6gb 780Ti nvidia is waiting for titan stock to sell out before releasing. Also the 580 was fermi and now is kepler which was a good increase in performance. The 580 would translate to roughly a GTX 760 now so a 770 4gb model is still better. A bigger bus vs the performace difference in the 580 vs 770 still makes the 779 better your not going to notice the bus bit rate difference in those speeds.
Edited by doctakedooty - 1/15/14 at 11:49am
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4gb models of the 770 are actually some of the best setups for surround especially if your running 1080p. The Ti or even 780 are good for 1440p and up. At 1440p and up you don't need aa so it saves some on vram. I debated on going back to 770s for surround but I need the gpu power for 3 1440p 120hz monitors. If you read around most actaul recommend 770 4gb models vs 780 or ti for surround vision. Also the ti does have the full unlocked gk110 and 7 ghz mem but the mem timings were loosened quite a bit to allow them to clock that high where the 780 had tighter timing like the 770.

Definitely sell the 2gb and grab some 4gb. Judging by the new cards coming out and ports we already have from the new console some 4gb 770s should last you sometime. Bf4 is a demanding game but I have been talking about it with others and they have the same issues with low frame rates on nvidia cards. I now stay above 120 fps on ultra with 3 780Ti on 1 monitor. Hopefully dice fix this but I am thinking they did it on purpose so people would purchase amd cards.

yup yup...totally agree...he your going three monitors that are higher then 1080p then you need the master mem and bigger mem bus and more gpu power of a 780 or 780 ti...but for triple 1080p monitors, a 770 4gb is best bang for buck and is future proof as far as VRAM goes for quite some time probably for 2-4 years depending on how game development goes...and if you ever needed more power then a sli set up of 770 4gb cards will kick ass!!!

as far as the dice /amd thing idk bout that...i know almost every EA game and especially BF game has always indorsed NVIDIA they have kinda been "in bed" with eachother for some time...if anything is a miss with NVIDIA cards in BF4 then its prob NVIDIA's fault and something with their drivers it happens from time to time...i remember when we were in the 28x drivers and people were having tons of problems till the 29x drivers came out...

as for me i have always been and will always be an NVIDIA guy...no matter what AMD brings out!
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yup yup...totally agree...he your going three monitors that are higher then 1080p then you need the master mem and bigger mem bus and more gpu power of a 780 or 780 ti...but for triple 1080p monitors, a 770 4gb is best bang for buck and is future proof as far as VRAM goes for quite some time probably for 2-4 years depending on how game development goes...and if you ever needed more power then a sli set up of 770 4gb cards will kick ass!!!

as far as the dice /amd thing idk bout that...i know almost every EA game and especially BF game has always indorsed NVIDIA they have kinda been "in bed" with eachother for some time...if anything is a miss with NVIDIA cards in BF4 then its prob NVIDIA's fault and something with their drivers it happens from time to time...i remember when we were in the 28x drivers and people were having tons of problems till the 29x drivers came out...

as for me i have always been and will always be an NVIDIA guy...no matter what AMD brings out!
Yea your right usually they have been in bed with nvidia but with them giving bf4 with amd cards and about to start using amd mantle seems they focused on amd optimization thengetting nvidia running right. Nvidia has released a few drivers since then but really on the ea forums people talking about the bad fps and drops in fps they said they were aware of the issue claimed they resolved it yet many still have the issue. When I go to my settings it recommends I run medium. Really 4930k at 4.6 ghz 2400 mhz ram and 3 oc 1240/7600 780Ti you recommend medium lol.
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I bought a 4gb 770 simply because I plan to SLI in the future. If I had bought a 2gb, I would bottleneck with the vram. When I was playing Crysis 3 multiplayer today (everything maxed @1080p), I was using 2.3gb's vram with one monitor... Now that the next gen consoles are out using x86, we won't be so held back by consoles meaning we're going to need a little more vram for the newer, bigger games. 2gb's is borderline pointless for AAA games of today.
     
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Yeah, I think i am going to end up selling the 2gb card and going with the 4gb just lame they don't make a waterblock for the 4gb cards. I would have to purchase the gtx 770 Classified Hydro Copper one :/
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Would a Kraken G10 work with the 4gb? I've never looked into it because I'm content with the windforce cooler, but the G10 might be worth looking into if you have the room in your case.
     
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I bought a 4gb 770 simply because I plan to SLI in the future. If I had bought a 2gb, I would bottleneck with the vram. When I was playing Crysis 3 multiplayer today (everything maxed @1080p), I was using 2.3gb's vram with one monitor... Now that the next gen consoles are out using x86, we won't be so held back by consoles meaning we're going to need a little more vram for the newer, bigger games. 2gb's is borderline pointless for AAA games of today.

I played crysis 3 maxed on 2gb sli 770s at 1080 and I didn't hit the vram wall if I remember right crysis 3 also reserves vram usuage like most games as a buffer
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