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I dont understand, why would you pay $459.99 for a GTX 670, when the GTX 770 is starting at 399.99.... and it our performs GTX 680's?..... I would look into the 7xx series of cards.
I was going to suggest this, but then noticed he already has a GTX 670. It's something to consider though OP.

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Uh, we're still perfectly fine with our corsair power supplies. Don't give in to the cynicism. In the enthusiast market if something's good, people will buy, it's simple as that.
I'm not instantly throwing Corsair under the bus. But what TwoCables says makes perfect sense, and he of all people, is the one that should be listened to on the matter.
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Where are you buying parts, reference 670 for 460 seems a bit crazy.

Actually, almost every price you posted seems marked up by at least 20-30%, are you buying from best buy or something? tongue.gif

I just built an extremely similar build(see my sig), except I bought two brand new gtx 680s and fit that in a 2300$ price tag, somethings wrong with wherever you bought it

Also corsair just rebrands seasonic and channelwell psus, so whoever told you corsair's power supplies were bad are terribly mistaken.

I'll be ordering through Newegg.com
And it's not the reference GTX 670, it's the Asus GTX 670 4GB with DCII cooling
I don't live near a microcenter, so that's not an option.
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I dont understand, why would you pay $459.99 for a GTX 670, when the GTX 770 is starting at 399.99.... and it our performs GTX 680's?..... I would look into the 7xx series of cards.

I already have a Asus 4gb GTX 670, I'm planning on getting a second one for SLI,
Since if I upgrade to a GTX 700 to SLI, I'll have to spend 800+, when I can just spend another 450 for SLI, which should have comparable perforamce and more Vram 2GB vs 4gb.
And even if I go 700 serie SLI, I'd still have an extra 4gb GTX 670

The extra fan, I'm thinking of this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132023&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=1fhgb4grnk55p

To replace the Kraken X60 stock one.

And those PSU recomended are the modular or semi-modular?
Edited by bluewr - 6/1/13 at 4:03am
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I'll be ordering through Newegg.com
And it's not the reference GTX 670, it's the Asus GTX 670 4GB with DCII cooling
I don't live near a microcenter, so that's not an option.
I already have a Asus 4gb GTX 670, I'm planning on getting a second one for SLI,
Since if I upgrade to a GTX 700 to SLI, I'll have to spend 800+, when I can just spend another 450 for SLI, which should have comparable perforamce and more Vram 2GB vs 4gb.
And even if I go 700 serie SLI, I'd still have an extra 4gb GTX 670

The extra fan, I'm thinking of this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132023&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=1fhgb4grnk55p

To replace the Kraken X60 stock one.

And those PSU recomended are the modular or semi-modular?
The HX750 is semi-modular, the only thing not modular about it is the 24 pin and 8 pin atx connectors. It's a nice psu.
   
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If you get a new fan for the Kraken (not sure why you'd want to though) be sure to get a PWM one.  Otherwise you won't be able to speed control them through the Kraken software (if that's important to you).

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If you get a new fan for the Kraken (not sure why you'd want to though) be sure to get a PWM one.  Otherwise you won't be able to speed control them through the Kraken software (if that's important to you).

From browsing through the Kraken X60 topic, most people seem to say that the default fan isn't that good, and they recomend that one.

And if I don't go with that board, and go with the Asus(I want ot stick with Asus board, because I'll be taking this rig with me to Taiwan for work, and there's a Asus customer station near where I'll be staying, so if anything go wrong, it'll be easiest to fix)

So if I go with the P8Z77-V or the Sabertooth, I can probabley save a few buck, and what other 1866 Ram is good, if not the Corsair Dominator one.
And if I save those money, I can probabely go with GTX 770 SLI, but I'd want to go wtih 4gb version, which one is better, Stock?
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From browsing through the Kraken X60 topic, most people seem to say that the default fan isn't that good, and they recomend that one.

And if I don't go with that board, and go with the Asus(I want ot stick with Asus board, because I'll be taking this rig with me to Taiwan for work, and there's a Asus customer station near where I'll be staying, so if anything go wrong, it'll be easiest to fix)

So if I go with the P8Z77-V or the Sabertooth, I can probabley save a few buck, and what other 1866 Ram is good, if not the Corsair Dominator one.
And if I save those money, I can probabely go with GTX 770 SLI, but I'd want to go wtih 4gb version, which one is better, Stock?
There's no point in getting 770s if you already have a 670.
Look into mushkin redlines or gskill sniper series ram... I got my 1600 redlines to 2ghz,they are really nice from my experience..
   
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I'll be ordering through Newegg.com
And it's not the reference GTX 670, it's the Asus GTX 670 4GB with DCII cooling
I don't live near a microcenter, so that's not an option.
I already have a Asus 4gb GTX 670, I'm planning on getting a second one for SLI,
Since if I upgrade to a GTX 700 to SLI, I'll have to spend 800+, when I can just spend another 450 for SLI, which should have comparable perforamce and more Vram 2GB vs 4gb.
And even if I go 700 serie SLI, I'd still have an extra 4gb GTX 670

The extra fan, I'm thinking of this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132023&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=1fhgb4grnk55p

To replace the Kraken X60 stock one.

And those PSU recomended are the modular or semi-modular?

 

I don't know why the HX750 was mentioned above. There's no good reason to recommend it (or any good quality-made 750W PSU) unless you wanted to have a setup like two GTX 680s. Even then, a good quality-made 650W PSU would be enough.

 

Anyway, here's the answer to your question: the only fully modular PSU in my list of 4 PSUs is the SeaSonic X-Series. The other 3 are just "modular". To me, a "semi-modular" PSU is one like the Corsair TXM series: it's modular, but not very.

 

Why do you want a fully modular PSU? The only real benefit of a fully modular PSU is that it's easier to sleeve.


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I don't know why the HX750 was mentioned above. There's no good reason to recommend it (or any good quality-made 750W PSU) unless you wanted to have a setup like two GTX 680s. Even then, a good quality-made 650W PSU would be enough.

Anyway, here's the answer to your question: the only fully modular PSU in my list of 4 PSUs is the SeaSonic X-Series. The other 3 are just "modular". To me, a "semi-modular" PSU is one like the Corsair TXM series: it's modular, but not very.

Why do you want a fully modular PSU? The only real benefit of a fully modular PSU is that it's easier to sleeve.
He plans on going for 670 sli or 770 sli, the latter being exactly that 680 sli that you mentioned. 650w is cutting things a little bit close, no? It'll be something like 400-450w draw max from gfx(500-550 depending on OC for 770s), and then possibly 120-150w from the cpu/mobo.
   
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He plans on going for 670 sli or 770 sli, the latter being exactly that 680 sli that you mentioned. 650w is cutting things a little bit close, no? It'll be something like 400-450w draw max from gfx(500-550 depending on OC for 770s), and then possibly 120-150w from the cpu/mobo.

 

It wouldn't be cutting it close with a good quality-made 650W PSU:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_670_2_and_3way_sli_review,4.html

 

With two GTX 670s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 433W from their wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add about 150W for a 3770K under full load overclocked to 5 GHz. So with the 3770K at 5 GHz and under full load and with the GTX 670s under full load at the same time, the PSU would then be pulling 583W from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 583W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 524W from the PSU. The gaming power draw will be at around 400-500W. This is easy for a good quality-made 650W PSU.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,4.html

 

With two GTX 680s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 473W from the wall outlet. After doing the same kind of calculations as above, the final wattage (before listing the gaming power draw) comes out to be 560W. The gaming power draw would be at around 450-525W. This is still easy for a good quality-made 650W PSU.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sli_review,4.html

 

With two GTX 770s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 505W from the wall outlet. Again, after doing the same calculations as above, the final wattage (before listing the gaming power draw) comes out to be 589W. The gaming power draw will be at around 475-550W to maybe 575W. Again, this is still easy for a good quality-made 650W PSU.

 

The calculations before listing the gaming power draws above are unrealistically high because I'm saying that the CPU and the video cards are completely maxed out to their limits simultaneously. That's something that practically never happens which is why I mentioned the estimated gaming power draw.

 

You see, a good quality-made 650W PSU can easily deliver 650W 24/7 if it's ever needed, so even having 575W pulled from such a PSU is not a big deal, especially since it could only happen while gaming. Of course, the plan is two GTX 670s because he already got one for free (for Christmas), so the power draw will be 400-500W while gaming.


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Well, amazon sells the hx750 for $118.99, and you could even get it for cheaper on newegg with the +15% off promo code and rebate they're running right now. most(or all) quality made 90% 650w's are at least $110, so there's a good reason right there, if you can get something better for the same price, why not?
   
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