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Im about to pull the trigger on a new CPU for my gaming rig.

The 6350 is really attractive, a simple multi bump can get it to 4ghz, 6 cores, and a smaller realistic heat imprint than the 8xxx CPUS, and getting 4.8-4.9ghz, even 5 ghz on air is doable.


I would like to have the 8300 series for the two extra threads, but the issue is

1) heat (I WILL overclock whatever CPU I get)
2) and price


I know everyone is saying the 8320 can clock just as high as the 8350 and all that, but on air? Can it really?

Is there much of a difference in gaming performance difference in say, a 4.6+ghz 6350 vs a 4.3-4.4ghz 8300 series cpu.


I ask this, because I know the heat will limit me more on the 8320/50.


This is a gaming machine, but I do multitask quite a bit, but nothing my quad core phenom cant handle right now.

Any experience and input will be apreciated
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Originally Posted by HeDsh0t View Post

I know everyone is saying the 8320 can clock just as high as the 8350 and all that, but on air? Can it really?
No. There are those few rare 8320s that can clock like 8350s, but 99% of the time an 8350 will overclock 200 to 500 MHz higher. On air the difference is smaller, because heat is the biggest limiting factor.
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Is there much of a difference in gaming performance difference in say, a 4.6+ghz 6350 vs a 4.3-4.4ghz 8300 series cpu.
Clock for clock, the 8-core has roughly 25% more computing power than the 6-core if all cores are used. Currently, most games only use 4 cores, so the 6350 is the obvious choice for gaming. That will probably change when the Xbox One and PS4 ports come to the PC, however.

Budget coolers are a big no-no for the 8300 CPUs, but may be enough for a moderate overclock on the 6300 series. Because the 8350 and 6350 base and turbo clocks are so close, they will probably overclock the same, as long as they can be cooled well enough.
 
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No. There are those few rare 8320s that can clock like 8350s, but 99% of the time an 8350 will overclock 200 to 500 MHz higher. On air the difference is smaller, because heat is the biggest limiting factor.
Clock for clock, the 8-core has roughly 25% more computing power than the 6-core if all cores are used. Currently, most games only use 4 cores, so the 6350 is the obvious choice for gaming. That will probably change when the Xbox One and PS4 ports come to the PC, however.

Budget coolers are a big no-no for the 8300 CPUs, but may be enough for a moderate overclock on the 6300 series. Because the 8350 and 6350 base and turbo clocks are so close, they will probably overclock the same, as long as they can be cooled well enough.

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No. There are those few rare 8320s that can clock like 8350s, but 99% of the time an 8350 will overclock 200 to 500 MHz higher. On air the difference is smaller, because heat is the biggest limiting factor.
Clock for clock, the 8-core has roughly 25% more computing power than the 6-core if all cores are used. Currently, most games only use 4 cores, so the 6350 is the obvious choice for gaming. That will probably change when the Xbox One and PS4 ports come to the PC, however.

Budget coolers are a big no-no for the 8300 CPUs, but may be enough for a moderate overclock on the 6300 series. Because the 8350 and 6350 base and turbo clocks are so close, they will probably overclock the same, as long as they can be cooled well enough.

I heard the hyper 212+ can allow a fairly moderate OC on the 8350, somewhere around 4.3-5 ghz. Either way, what cooler would you reccomend? Don't have a lot to spend on a cooler, but I may get it in the future.
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No. There are those few rare 8320s that can clock like 8350s, but 99% of the time an 8350 will overclock 200 to 500 MHz higher. On air the difference is smaller, because heat is the biggest limiting factor.
Clock for clock, the 8-core has roughly 25% more computing power than the 6-core if all cores are used. Currently, most games only use 4 cores, so the 6350 is the obvious choice for gaming. That will probably change when the Xbox One and PS4 ports come to the PC, however.

Budget coolers are a big no-no for the 8300 CPUs, but may be enough for a moderate overclock on the 6300 series. Because the 8350 and 6350 base and turbo clocks are so close, they will probably overclock the same, as long as they can be cooled well enough.
You could go pretty far on a 6350 (think of it as a new rev 6300) but not so much on a old batch 6300
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I heard the hyper 212+ can allow a fairly moderate OC on the 8350, somewhere around 4.3-5 ghz. Either way, what cooler would you reccomend? Don't have a lot to spend on a cooler, but I may get it in the future.

I have the hyper212 Evo on my 8320 now and I can tell you the best you will do with it is about 4.5ghz.
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OP: at this point I seriously would wait on getting a new FX CPU. From what I have heard the new steamroller revision is due to drop this oct.-nov. so I would actually hold off. That's just me though. I you absolutely need it now though I would get the 8320 or 8350.
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Still, if i was in a rush and had a AM3+ board i would not drop money for a new proc. A used FX at best or maybe a phenom which i do not advocate
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post #10 of 19
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I heard the hyper 212+ can allow a fairly moderate OC on the 8350, somewhere around 4.3-5 ghz. Either way, what cooler would you reccomend? Don't have a lot to spend on a cooler, but I may get it in the future.
It depends on your ambient temps, fan configuration and case setup, but I used a 212 EVO on an 8320 and 8350. With the stock fan, I was limited to 4.3 GHz for the 8320 and 4.4 GHz on the 8350 before stress tests reached the safe core temperature limit.

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You could go pretty far on a 6350 (think of it as a new rev 6300) but not so much on a old batch 6300
The 6350 is indeed a newer revision (although pretty minor from what I remember). It's turbo is 100 MHz higher than the 6300, but the TDP also went up, so I'm guessing overclocking will be marginally better.

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OP: at this point I seriously would wait on getting a new FX CPU. From what I have heard the new steamroller revision is due to drop this oct.-nov. so I would actually hold off. That's just me though. I you absolutely need it now though I would get the 8320 or 8350.
Except that's half a year away, at best tongue.gif. If you have plans to upgrade when Steamroller comes out, get the 6350 now and trade up when you are ready. If you don't plan on getting Steamroller, buy the 8350 and the best cooler you can afford. This way you will be reasonably future-proof with a fast 8-core for all of those next-gen console ports.

I recommend the 8350 over the 8320 for three reasons:
1. It will overclock higher (more performance)
2. The $20 or $30 difference is nothing when consider how long you will own it ($30 = $2.5 per month for a year)
3. It will have a higher resale value in the future
 
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