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post #11 of 15
To the OP why do you need to upgrade from 7000 series, they have more horsepower than anyone should ever need.
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Originally Posted by CrazyElf View Post

Let's look at this situation for a bit:

1. The Nvidia 700 series came out. For gaming, it does put additional pressure on AMD in that there is a part that trades blows with the 7970 at a competitive price. The 780 is perhaps 20% faster but costs 30% more and AMD has no competition here.

However, for currencies, well, it's no secret that AMD cards vastly outperform Nvidia's right now due to design decisions made in their respective architectures. For that reason, this is a non-event. Even the compute oriented GK110 does not compare to a 7970 in terms of raw performance per gpu core.

2. Assuming no delays on AMD's part, if the information is correct, we should hear reports of at least a paper launch in the next 3-6 months. Under the most optimistic scenario, we could see compute performance go up by as much as a factor of 2 or 3. The top end part will cost perhaps $600? If the generation underperforms, it could be perhaps 1.5X the or less. We really do not have any info at this point to make a guess.

3. We do not have any information about Maxwell, but it seems improbable that Nvidia will release anything other than rebrands until Maxwell comes out - so in that regard, Nvidia is out of the picture until 2014.


Should you get the GPU?

If the profits or whatever gains from running crypto > depreciation of the 2 7970s + Power Bill

Let's assume that you can get the 2 7970 GPUs for say, $400 each (I'm not sure what the prices are in the US as I don't live in the US). Assume that the next gen comes out and the GPUs are worth $200 each now resale.

Spend ~$800 now, resell for $400 later. So you've lost $400 total in deprecation. If you can earn more than $200 per GPU in the next couple of months then you should get it.

Very informative post! +rep! I am going to wait, the currency that I am mining right now I am only getting $200 a month with both GPUs on 24/7 so adding two more would only get me up to $400 a month. Energy bills won't matter this fall because I will be at college. Right now, I have to be mindful because I don't pay the bill. Haven't noticed an increase though.
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I would recommend to wait as well smile.gif

Agreed!
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I had this debate myself when I was upgrading my gfx cards, waitied over 2.5 years for the new gtx titans to come out and they werent that wow since they were just an kepler refresh with an 100% markup, so I bought 7970's they are going strong. My opinion upgrade now instead of waiting because when the new products come out you will hold off for the next line and so on, never upgrading. If you know when the new products come wait but if you buy them then you will have to wait at-least 6mths for them to release good drivers.

I wish we knew exactly when the next series from AMD was coming out...
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But he has 2 7970s already and 4 way crossfire is not worth it in my opinion

Sure it is! For the epeen and mining biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by itz.clint View Post

To the OP why do you need to upgrade from 7000 series, they have more horsepower than anyone should ever need.

Mining a type of crypto currency wink.gif

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If you're getting $200 max a month for 2 more, then I would actually consider buying.

Why? Say the next generation comes out in 4 months. Let's say you get $150 a month average (I'm guessing - you said up to $200).

So $150 x 4 months = $600 (income) - $400 (from depreciation) = $200 in profit.

Assumptions
- Average is $150 (change whatever average the real number is); if the average is more than $100, I'd buy
- Next gen is up for sale in 4 months (this is a random guess and it could be later or earlier)

Risks
- Crypto currency crashes. If it crashes, obviously you have lost your investment.
- The combination of the GTX 770s and the next generation of GPUs could force a greater than $200 deprecation compared to current prices. This could be especially true if the next generation of GPU is very powerful - we're talking 5870 over 4890 type gains.

Edit:
If the currency does crash, sell the GPUs immediately if you do buy them. Holding will only depreciate further. 4 way crossfire is not that useful in gaming. For most titles, 4 way crossfire does not scale the way 2 way does and is a pain to work with (driver issues).

Edit 2:
Well, on the note of if the currency does crash, I suppose you could try to mine something else.

Also, if your PC setup looks like this, then keeping the GPUs for purely gaming is justifiable:

Edited by CrazyElf - 6/2/13 at 12:42am
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i had 2 HIS 7970 GHz edition, and now i sold them and got 1 GTX 780 and its almost the same score i get on heaven 1.0 with a little OC this card rocks out.
the 7970 CF mode will be a bit faster but not by far, cant even tell the difference, in crysis 3 on amd 7970 CF mode i was getting about 100 fps
with the GTX 780 with OC a bit, i can play crysis 3 with only 10 less FPS so absolutely great cards these days

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396726/my-sweet-780-overclock-suggestion-advice-check-it-out
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i had 2 HIS 7970 GHz edition, and now i sold them and got 1 GTX 780 and its almost the same score i get on heaven 1.0 with a little OC this card rocks out.
the 7970 CF mode will be a bit faster but not by far, cant even tell the difference, in crysis 3 on amd 7970 CF mode i was getting about 100 fps
with the GTX 780 with OC a bit, i can play crysis 3 with only 10 less FPS so absolutely great cards these days

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396726/my-sweet-780-overclock-suggestion-advice-check-it-out

i had crossfire 7950/7970 stock and in C3 using the highest settings with just 4msaa my minimum dipped in the high 30s, so yours went down in the 20s? nah.
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