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I don't think they will tbh. These are supposed to clock higher with less impressive (read: stock) cooling, meaning they should be lower-leakage chips, and as we all know it's the higher-leakage chips that get the top LN2 validations.

I know but even if it was just significantly more common to find a 8GHz capable one from I'd probably go for it.

Though on the leakage issue, 5GHz is probably already the sort of frequency that you'l want a leaky chip to reach it. Leaky = scales with volts. And 5GHz most likely needs quite a lot of volts. And leaky doesn't necessarily mean high stock volts or anything.
 
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No. AI on rts gaming is way to difficult to be coded for multithreading. All RTS games use 2 cores maximum.

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In this respect Shogun 2 represents significant progress over its immediate predecessor, with an improved ability to scale effects and details according to the number of processor cores available.

http://software.intel.com/sites/billboard/article/intel-tbb-helps-total-war-shogun-2-run-faster-and-better

World In Conflict which uses the MassTech engine is also multi threaded. Company of Heroes 2 also looks to be multi threaded. There's really no excuse for a modern game not to use more then 2 cores. It all comes down to Blizzard being lazy.
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Its an everyday event for me, rendering something most days anyway. And I am sure there are a lot of other people who use their pc to full potential at least a few times a week. But yeah 464 watt is a lot of power. And saying 464 watt while only running prime is like saying my gtx 480 gets 20fps while only running Crysis 3 biggrin.gif
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wow, 1.6V. Are you going subambient to do that? Will the chip even survive for a long time at 1.6V?

I've been pushing 1.6vcore on my 8350 for about 6 months, 1.57v for the time before that. On a water loop.

Basically non-avx code only pushes it into the 50s or 60s on my rig, but heavy duty AVX code in Gentoo can push it into the 80s, where it just like locks up for a little bit and then does some sort of throttling where it doesn't break 55c anymore.

The AMD chips can take a beating, and that is why I love mine so much. In fact, I have toasted two Intels in my life time (a P4 Prescott and my i7 920, the i7 920 is just kind of degraded though while the p4 is useless at half of stock frequency). My Opteron 165 and FX 8350 show no signs of degradation. My personal experience with pushing things too far is that Intel actually handles higher voltage and higher temps (beyond manufacturer's maximum recommendation) much, much worse than AMD.

Sandy has really dumbed down overclocking to the point where people think you should be able to throw an Evo 212 on it, raise the multiplier, and then walk way. All of the P4s, the Opteron, and FXs I've overclocked all scaled with better cooling.

IB and Haswell just flat out simply don't, unless you straight up delid it. There is no "I totally just jerry-rigged this Vantec Tornado onto my heatsink and built a shroud out of an erector set and cut a hole in the side of the case to feed the tornado, and I got an extra 200mhz out of my chip!" with IB and Haswell. It's depressing, because it's raised a generation of overclockers who think that doing things like that is completely idiotic and poor engineering by whoever made the chip. It's simple physics, there's just something fundamentally broken with IB and Haswell.

It's going to be interesting to know if this new Vishera chip has extra headroom or not. Even if you could squeeze an extra 25% out of it by going to water (which I would highly doubt), that'd put you at 6.25ghz.

But I feel like I'm dreaming, I wouldn't expect this chip to overclock much more at all unless there's some sort of serious magic going on in this chip and AMD actually did something creative, but with AMD's resources I can't imagine them doing something like a special run of chips with RCM or some sort of power gating or something.

Regardless, I think some of you need to lay off of AMD for doing this. Intel has basically just friendzoned and given the finger to all Intel enthusiasts, and AMD is here saying "we know you guys would rather raise vcore and frequency as opposed to cut power consumption and we're gonna do the same thing."

At the very least I would call 220w "enthusiast TDP", probably kind of as a joke. But hey, pretty much all of us with OCed rigs are at 200w+, regardless of if your chip ships at 74w or 130w (IB power consumption would go up higher than FX because the IB would get a higher percentage overclock).
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At the very least I would call 220w "enthusiast TDP", probably kind of as a joke. But hey, pretty much all of us with OCed rigs are at 200w+, regardless of if your chip ships at 74w or 130w.

I can agree with this, although I'm not part of that club.... biggrin.gif
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it will come with a capable cooler of course.[/quote]

yeah like the one we got with the FX 8350 rolleyes.gif
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yeah like the one we got with the FX 8350 rolleyes.gif

It works. It doesn't have to work well, it just has to work.
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yeah like the one we got with the FX 8350 rolleyes.gif

It can handle stock clocks right?
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It can handle stock clocks right?

and that's all that matters!!! Even if they gave us a better aftermarket cooler, it'd only just be good enough for maybe a little boost in vcore. I'd rather they don't include any cooler and lower the price by like 5-10 bucks. smile.gif Don't expect them to include some top of the line Noctura
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and that's all that matters!!! Even if they gave us a better aftermarket cooler, it'd only just be good enough for maybe a little boost in vcore. I'd rather they don't include any cooler and lower the price by like 5-10 bucks. smile.gif Don't expect them to include some top of the line Noctura

I know that, but that's not my point, i was responding to someone who said that this chip is for overclockers, i said no, this chip is for those who doesn't overclock.
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