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Do we have any speculated release date yet?
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Do we have any speculated release date yet?
said in the description on Tom's that they felt more info this week.
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either way... 220w tdp is just insane. They are going in reverse. While Intel is designing lower draw, faster chips, AMD is just building the American muscle car of the tech world. While awesome all in all. Just not too smart. My 2cents.gif
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post #474 of 953
It's smart because:

1. Kaveri has to take priority, because mobile is all the rage. Thus Steamroller will not be released before 2014.

2. You can only do so much with an existing architecture.

3. The high end enthusiasts demand performance, and are willing to pay a lot. See the i7 hexacores.
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either way... 220w tdp is just insane. They are going in reverse. While Intel is designing lower draw, faster chips, AMD is just building the American muscle car of the tech world. While awesome all in all. Just not too smart. My 2cents.gif
Christ. You're on OCN and you're complaining about 220W TDP? Oh the irony.
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Man if they would have done this from the start in the bulldozer launch people would have gone easier on them....binned 5.0ghz cpu's could have been fx-8160, just glad they are doing it now at least
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Man if they would have done this from the start in the bulldozer launch people would have gone easier on them....binned 5.0ghz cpu's could have been fx-8160, just glad they are doing it now at least
It would be like 400W TDP rolleyes.gif
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post #478 of 953
BD chips wouldn't have hit 5ghz, only the revised PD chips had the ability to hit 5ghz on air/water. So it makes sense for them to release it now.
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Did you read the description of the test?

Did you?

The description quite clearly states that you can download the source code, but if you compile your own build it you won't be able to submit scores with it.
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Anyway I never said bias, that would imply they intentionally programed for Intel against AMD.

No, it wouldn't. Nothing about bias needs to imply intent.
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There is no conspiracy.

I know.
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But keep an eye on the horizon. If this were war, then AMD is strategically placing itself for an all out assault. It looks good and seems to be going well.

You're delusional.
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Amd is fun because you don't have to take s knife to your brand new processor to get the most out of it. Intel has really alienated me with its big "F You" o all of us who wanted the Tim fixed.

From Intel's perspective, there is no problem.

They are saving more money by omitting the solder than they could ever lose by alienating a tiny fraction of a tiny market.
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Not for the last generation they haven't. Fx chips OC to 4.8 easily while even on water ivy chips and now haswell don't without deliding.

Even now, Intel chips OC proportionally much better than AMDs, in general.

Taking a 4GHz FX-8350 to 4.8GHz is much less of an OC than taking a 3.5GHz i7 to 4.5GHz.
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I really hope AMD releases a chip the blows intel away. Just so some of the elite guys can have some humble pie.

Eat some humble pie? They'd just buy the faster processor.

When it comes down to it, it's only a fringe of fanatics that really care what brand their part is. The main reason so many are raving about Intel, at the apparent expense of AMD, is that Intel has generally had superior high-end parts since 2006. If that changes, sentiment will change almost overnight. You could tell who the nutcases where when Core 2 came out. Anyone who expressed disbelief or a continuing loyalty to AMD, when their 300 dollar Opterons were having the snot kicked out of them by 80 dollar Pentium Es, was hopelessly biased. If, by some miracle, AMD stages a reversal, any enthusiast who sticks primarily with Intel in the same situation will prove themselves to be similarly hopeless.
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Also If this new chip was just an OCed version of the 8350, no not if, I doubt it is without being god chips. The voltage necessary for 5.0ghz seems to be in the vicinity of 1.55v and requires top notch cooling. I would be far more inclined to believe a slight structure change even possibly a slightly larger chip before I believe this to be an OCed 8350.

It's scarcely conceivable that AMD would engineer a new chip design just for this part, or that if such parts are a new architecture, that only two top end parts would be leaked first. Even a "slight structure change" is an enormous expense, and AMD would have to be suicidal to do something like this for a niche part.

220w TDP, if even vaguely accurate, would imply this is Vishera.

No, if this chip is real, and anywhere close to release, it's just a binned Vishera, made exactly the same way as current Vishera parts, just binned. It's essentially TWKR II.
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Trinity I don't know, but perhaps Richland?

FX4300-like performance, but with an IGP and noticeably less power consumption.

Richland is, as far as I know, just Trinity with a better IGP and some efficiency improvements? I was meaning that this is a new chip AMD has cooked up, that would make sense with the other rumoured FX launching...AMD makes a new chip that allows higher clocks but uses more power at the same clock speed, launches the FX-9000 as its EE style chip and then the FX-8**0 one as a lower-end counterpart.
Like I said, I really doubt it but it's a possibility...It's either that or it'll be a TWKR style limited release.
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