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You do know that 8150 couldn't even fend off a 2500k right? Less so for a 8120 ... There's where PD is so much better.

And there were no 2500K's to be found at the time I built my rig... they'd already been sold out and Intel certainly wasn't going to make more of them. As I said... I had a confined budget to buy a complete tower and peripherals. Everything. And I think for the money I had and the work I do outside of gaming on my tower, I did a pretty d**ned good job given the budget I had. For what I need it to do and want it to do, it does just fine for me and the money I had to spend. It gets pretty tiring hearing the same broken record "just buy Intel" garbage over and over again. If you don't have the money to buy what you want with the Intel brand slapped on it, you're not buying it, it's that simple. Unlike our government seems to believe, money just doesn't appear out of thin air at the snap of your fingers. And don't bring up buying used gear either... after 3 years spent working in an RMA/MRB service support field, and all the idiotic user created problems I saw with hardware, plus just plain terrible design work and engineering (*cough* Seagate Enterprise Drives *cough*) let's just say I'm extremely reticent to trust just about anyone and everyone when it comes to buying used gear. Buying used gaming equipment at Gamestop is one thing, but my home tower is a whole different ball game because I need it to help me make money rather than be a money pit.
Edited by SpacemanSpliff - 6/4/13 at 11:22pm
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I'm not entirely sure slapping 200CFM deltas would help vs a 120CFM delta (FFB1212VHE, EFB1212VHE, AFB1212VHE-C, WFB1212VHE) ...
As the NH-D14 is more optimized for silence rather than maximum density

If you seal the fin openings in the sides of the heatsink and place an appropriately sized conical restrictor on the output side of the HSF assembly (think, build a wind tunnel around the HS) you will get awesome performance out of the 250CFM deltas. Mainly due to increased pressure in the temperature flux areas.

That is not feasible for a nice looking gaming rig w/o a properly equipped machine shop or the need to hear. You are right, there are much better heatsinks for those fans. Just saying it would be fun to try out.
Edited by KarathKasun - 6/4/13 at 11:41pm
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What kind of cooler would you need to keep a 220 watt CPU cool? I used a wattage calulator and came up with my OC'd 8320 sucking about 170W. I doubt my hyper212 evo would be up to the task...
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If you seal the fin openings in the sides of the heatsink and place an appropriately sized conical restrictor on the output side of the HSF assembly (think, build a wind tunnel around the HS) you will get awesome performance out of the 250CFM deltas. Mainly due to increased pressure in the temperature flux areas.

That is not feasible for a nice looking gaming rig w/o a properly equipped machine shop or the need to hear. You are right, there are much better heatsinks for those fans. Just saying it would be fun to try out.
Totally wink.gif That said ... I do have a 210CFM nidec (6200rpm) that is ... much less power hungry than a delta of the same level. tongue.gif Did absolutely jack for my friend's 3930k on a noctua NH-D14 as compared to my FFB1212VHE
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And there were no 2500K's to be found at the time I built my rig... they'd already been sold out and Intel certainly wasn't going to make more of them. As I said... I had a confined budget to buy a complete tower and peripherals. Everything. And I think for the money I had and the work I do outside of gaming on my tower, I did a pretty d**ned good job given the budget I had. For what I need it to do and want it to do, it does just fine for me and the money I had to spend. It gets pretty tiring hearing the same broken record "just buy Intel" garbage over and over again. If you don't have the money to buy what you want with the Intel brand slapped on it, you're not buying it, it's that simple. Unlike our government seems to believe, money just doesn't appear out of thin air at the snap of your fingers. And don't bring up buying used gear either... after 3 years spent working in an RMA/MRB service support field, and all the idiotic user created problems I saw with hardware, plus just plain terrible design work and engineering (*cough* Seagate Enterprise Drives *cough*) let's just say I'm extremely reticent to trust just about anyone and everyone when it comes to buying used gear. Buying used gaming equipment at Gamestop is one thing, but my home tower is a whole different ball game because I need it to help me make money rather than be a money pit.
TL;RBDN
I understand, i understand. But you should have waited for vishera tongue.gif It's not like i like either AMD or Intel either
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I was thinking more along the lines of a AFB1212GHE (240CFM).

Using one of those on my... Creatively engineered server (1U system transplanted into an old ASUSPRO tower) at the moment. One fan cools two CPUs, FBDIMMS, VRMS...

Had one on a cheap but large 120mm sized tower cooler that redirected airflow with the fins curled down at the back on an FX-4100 at one point. Cooled it at 1.65v/5Ghz adequately, though the resistance from the oddly shaped fins probably attributed to its decent performance. High static pressure can turn the seemingly worst coolers into monsters.

Speaking of the FX-4100, I want them to release a 4.6Ghz stock variant of their dual module chips, Maybe native dual module for better yields. Though I doubt they will seeing the A10's fill that niche well enough.
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Static pressure works miracles!
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It's essentially TWKR II.

But reversely binned perhaps?

TWKR was an extremely high leakage part that ran with massive voltages on air, yet on LN2 it needed much less voltage to attain the same frequencies as your daily Phenom II.

This one would need to be very low leakage to keep 220W TDP at 5GHz...
   
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BLAMELESS quote:
Did you?

The description quite clearly states that you can download the source code, but if you compile your own build it you won't be able to submit scores with it.


So you think that all the AMD FX 8350 scores were made with their own optimized source code? I can tell you that most if not all those 8350 were done with only the souce code DL and benched. Besides it is said that they would concider new code for future releases. It is a fair assessment of CPUs to compare across the board, from desktop to tablet and phone (I believe). Doesn't change the fact that Intels best didn't topple the FX in the list. Even a 5.2 Intel didn't best a 4.4 FX. I know why and that reason will kill the same notion Intel has made against AMD for some time now.
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But reversely binned perhaps?

TWKR was an extremely high leakage part that ran with massive voltages on air, yet on LN2 it needed much less voltage to attain the same frequencies as your daily Phenom II.

This one would need to be very low leakage to keep 220W TDP at 5GHz...

Let's not forget it will be a 4.8Ghz part, that turbos to 5 on one core (most likely).
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Let's not forget it will be a 4.8Ghz part, that turbos to 5 on one core (most likely).
True. Funny I have a FX 8350 and I don't quite remember exactly, but The turbo is 2 stage. Like 4.8ghz on 8 core , 4.9ghz on 4, and 5.0ghz on 2 or 1. Anyway you are most like correct sir.
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