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Food for thought for you guys

8350 - 6.89
10 core 8350 - 8.61 estimated
12 core 8350 - 10.33 estimated

In cinebench multithreaded. Wouldn't take much to overthrow the 4770k.

But what's the point? Steamroller's approach to improve individual core efficiency is much better.
   
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Food for thought for you guys

8350 - 6.89
10 core 8350 - 8.61 estimated
12 core 8350 - 10.33 estimated

In cinebench multithreaded. Wouldn't take much to overthrow the 4770k.

12 PD cores 4GHz might actually get close to a stock clocked SB-E...

Honestly AMD should just give us a couple of 16c G34 CPUs that are unlocked and make asus/GB/etc. fab a few enthusiast boards in 1p, 2p and 4p configs.

Would be much nicer than a 8-core PD that's been clocked to the max from the factory...
 
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Practicality aside, I'd like to see a 16C single-die Steamroller. It'd be fun. And for a bench toy, it wouldn't matter what its thermals were or how much power it took. Fun is its own reward.

It would be cool to see them all cooking up in the All CPU Meter widget.
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Well ... it technically is faster, very close to the desktop sibling but there is just one problem. the i7-4950HQ is not going to be cheap. Good motivation but it is bad at the same time ... the i7-4770k which costs 100$ over a 8350 is only a tiny bit faster than a laptop chip
Thanks for dishing out that joke today. Laptops aren't going to turbo even to nearly 3GHz if that's what the previous laptops has indicated. Tiny cooling systems and such
Driver optimization would be funny in 2004 but no, Intel drivers are still hopeless even into their 3rd gen of GPUs that are integrated with CPUs. It's now the 4th gen? oh what would i expect. Keep this thread about AMD please.

What joke? Hardware cannucks (if i am not mistaken) showed that 8670D is roughly as powerful as a discreet 6670 DDR3 and, from that link,at least for metro LL, same goes for the GT3e (slightly faster than a 6570,hence 6670 ddr3 territory). GT3e was hyped to be very strong for beating 7660D in anandtech's review. To me it seems that they are roughly on par and i7-4950hq scores higher mainly thanks to the cpu part. You are raising an interesting issue- anand tested gt3e inside a desktop box, which is a much cooler environment than the inside of a laptop chassis. When GT3e mobile units hits the shelves (If we ever see a proper winows laptop with them,that is) it is possible that the cpu will be forced to work at around t base clocks and overall gaming performance will be lower than what anandtech measured. Provided that anand's sample was running at higher than stock frequency by being inside a desktop box, that is. As for drivers, I agree,intel HD has had horrible ones but I'd expect them to properly support their stuff this time round,would be ridiculous to dish out such an expensive solution (GT3e) and leave it unsupported.
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12 PD cores 4GHz might actually get close to a stock clocked SB-E...

Honestly AMD should just give us a couple of 16c G34 CPUs that are unlocked and make asus/GB/etc. fab a few enthusiast boards in 1p, 2p and 4p configs.

Would be much nicer than a 8-core PD that's been clocked to the max from the factory...

Exactly my thinking al. Imagine if a 12 core PD was released on AM3+ at 399.99. It would severely undercut the 3930K and be pretty damn equal.
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Exactly my thinking al. Imagine if a 12 core PD was released on AM3+ at 399.99. It would severely undercut the 3930K and be pretty damn equal.

Well it wouldn't beat it once both were overclocked tongue.gif
 
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Well it wouldn't beat it once both were overclocked tongue.gif

True lachen.gif but at that price point a lot wouldnt even go SBE. Amd needs to put some free thinkers in charge of the processor lineups.
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Exactly my thinking al. Imagine if a 12 core PD was released on AM3+ at 399.99. It would severely undercut the 3930K and be pretty damn equal.

Would suck for games if they just added more cores and didn't work on IPC. Throw all the cores you want at it, but it'll strain like crazy once those 2 -4 threaded games keep popping out. (unless it had like a cascading turbo boost where 2 cores @ 5ghz, 4 cores @ 4.8ghz, 6 cores @ 4.6ghz, 8 cores @ 4.4 ghz, 10 cores @ 4.2 ghz, 12 cores @ 4ghz.
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Would suck for games if they just added more cores and didn't work on IPC. Throw all the cores you want at it, but it'll strain like crazy once those 2 -4 threaded games keep popping out. (unless it had like a cascading turbo boost where 2 cores @ 5ghz, 4 cores @ 4.8ghz, 6 cores @ 4.6ghz, 8 cores @ 4.4 ghz, 10 cores @ 4.2 ghz, 12 cores @ 4ghz.

A 12 core wouldn't about gaming performance. It would be about beating intel in multithreaded for 200 less.
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A 12 core wouldn't about gaming performance. It would be about beating intel in multithreaded for 200 less.

Well....that'd be good for us smile.gif

Do you guys see a reasonable limit we'll have on the # of cores in our desktop CPU's in the next 10-20 years? Would it be realistic to assume we'll still just have 4-12 core CPU's for the next could of "gens"
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