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Haswell isn't even released.
Yes, it is. Already in towns. Price released and stock completed.
Oh it officially launches today (2nd)
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lol i have tri 580 ultras. power draw much?
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post #73 of 953
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Well, anyone need to fry some eggs in the morning while at their computer?

I know, right! This thing uses so much more power than, say, two 7970s.

I hope that someday Nvidia and AMD can understand what makes Intel CPUs so good, their low power consumption. It is definitely worth it to trade performance for TDP, it's what Intel has been touting for years and it's working for them, look at their market share. Haswell is being marketed as a success all over other outlets, like my Google News feed. They traded performance in for lower TDP and it's a huge success!

GPUs will not really take off until we start seeing AMD and Nvidia sacrificing performance in order to get our GPUs into a 95w power envelope. I would gladly take 5% increases in performance per generation in GPUs in exchange for reasonable heat and power consumption.

Does that sound stupid to you? Because that's what every enthusiast that puts power consumption over performance sounds like to me. Power consumption is just an excuse to give enthusiasts under-performing chip. And energy costs aren't that expensive, and if someone lives in an area with cheap power, they shouldn't have to sacrifice performance for power consumption because someone lives in some place with high power requirements. If you can't afford it, don't do it. If you don't want to spend a ton of money on gas, you don't buy a fast car that uses more gas than a prius.

This whole "I'm an enthusiasts I want the fastest things I can afford and then two tweak them but MUH POWER CONSUMPTION!" needs to die a quick death, it's the most inane and ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

Interesting CPU's. If SR won't be released on the AM3+ platform I'll get one of these and make do for a while unless SR is really worth the upgrade.

SR will be AM3+, AMD stated their next ~2-3 years of products will work on AM3+. They didn't want to pull an "Intel" and hop platforms after just a couple of years.

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Originally Posted by sdlvx View Post

I know, right! This thing uses so much more power than, say, two 7970s.

I hope that someday Nvidia and AMD can understand what makes Intel CPUs so good, their low power consumption. It is definitely worth it to trade performance for TDP, it's what Intel has been touting for years and it's working for them, look at their market share. Haswell is being marketed as a success all over other outlets, like my Google News feed. They traded performance in for lower TDP and it's a huge success!

GPUs will not really take off until we start seeing AMD and Nvidia sacrificing performance in order to get our GPUs into a 95w power envelope. I would gladly take 5% increases in performance per generation in GPUs in exchange for reasonable heat and power consumption.

Does that sound stupid to you? Because that's what every enthusiast that puts power consumption over performance sounds like to me. Power consumption is just an excuse to give enthusiasts under-performing chip. And energy costs aren't that expensive, and if someone lives in an area with cheap power, they shouldn't have to sacrifice performance for power consumption because someone lives in some place with high power requirements. If you can't afford it, don't do it. If you don't want to spend a ton of money on gas, you don't buy a fast car that uses more gas than a prius.

This whole "I'm an enthusiasts I want the fastest things I can afford and then two tweak them but MUH POWER CONSUMPTION!" needs to die a quick death, it's the most inane and ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

So that obviously went over your head.

As for the rest of what you said....

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396503/various-intel-haswell-reviews/150#post_20093161
Edited by PostalTwinkie - 6/1/13 at 11:55am
    
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Nope, 800mhz will absolutely make zero difference in performance rolleyes.gif

If I could push my bottlenecking i7 720qm from 1.6 GHz to 2.4 GHz, I wouldn't be thinking about getting a Kaveri APU so I could play TF2 at a guaranteed 60 FPS instead of 30-60, and Wargame: Airland Battle. If I played at .9 GHz (battery mode), TF2's FPS would be 10-30.
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It actually won't in most games...because most games are GPU limited and run equally well on an FX-8350 as a i5 3570k/i5 4570k unless you're gaming at 720p or below. (In which case you're most likely above 60fps anyway).

Max graphic settings for TF2 aren't enough to push my laptop's Radeon 5730m GPU to max load. I'd much prefer a slight GPU bottleneck than a CPU one.
Edited by A Bad Day - 6/1/13 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

SR will be AM3+, AMD stated their next ~2-3 years of products will work on AM3+. They didn't want to pull an "Intel" and hop platforms after just a couple of years.
So that obviously went over your head.

As for the rest of what you said....

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396503/various-intel-haswell-reviews/150#post_20093161


lets talk about power efficiency ...
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ahh you beat me too it but yeah totally thinking to gettting it depends on price I not too happy with my intel build
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The FX....
ITS OVER 9000!!!!
Well, yeah. had to get that off my chest. in all seriousness, 220W tdp? daaaaanngggg that's hot.
 
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Well to be fair FX-8350 is also very hot chip when voltage is pumped up, 5GHz is usually possible only with water cooling.

This. I have some of the best air cooling on the market, and I can't get it stable past 4.8 Ghz. Even if it's stable, the system goes THUNK and turns off because of overheating. Would I want to try to see how the NH-D14 copes with this thing? D: Nooooooooooope. Seems like AMD have just turned their normal chips up to 11. There's not much different here from what things look like, as far as microarchitecture goes.

DON'T YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY WE KEEP STARTING FIRES? lachen.gif
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lets talk about power efficiency ...
Screw power efficiency. Why bring it up?

"Oh no. This processor will cost an extra $12 per YEAR to run."

God I hate that argument. Do you hear about car enthusiasts complaining about MPG? Nope! Power, power, and more power, that is what we want.
    
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HOLY CRAP 225W TDP!?
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