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My rig pulls over 600 watts from the wall with my fx-8320 @ 4.8ghz, as I stated earlier these chips must be best binned chips in history. I personally do not think that this is fake because to get a fx-83XX chip running at 5ghz TDP has to be over 200 W, I know its crazy but its the reality of these fx reactors.
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And then everyone realizes that an overclocked 2600K/3770K/4770K will still completely kill this thing....

Honestly I don't see the point.
 
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I would consider an AMD CPU if the performance was there (because BF3/BF4 will use more than 4 cores) except for one problem: No Nvidia SLI support.

First GTX780 is on order, second one will be next week so without the SLI license, their performance, no matter how spectacular, is irrelevant (to me).

Not sure if you are trolling or just misinformed, The 990FX chipset has been supporting SLI for a long time now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876
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The FX....
ITS OVER 9000!!!!
Well, yeah. had to get that off my chest. in all seriousness, 220W tdp? daaaaanngggg that's hot.

I know you couldn't resist, but it's EQUAL TO 9000!!! lachen.gif

At any rate, people are going to need an additional breaker in their home for overclocking. It also comes with an OEM DICE Pot! devil.gif
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And then everyone realizes that an overclocked 2600K/3770K/4770K will still completely kill this thing....

Honestly I don't see the point.

It doesn't cost much for AMD to attempt to troll Intel, aside from the extra binning and separate packaging. Even then, the profit margins would've been sufficient to cover any losses.
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HOLY CRAP 225W TDP!?

At least you aren't locked at some low TDP. The APUs, including the 5800K, throttle if their TDP is exceeded. I believe the throttling occurs even when the APU is at a safe operating temperature.
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And then everyone realizes that an overclocked 2600K/3770K/4770K will still completely kill this thing....

Honestly I don't see the point.

Might as well just release every unlocked CPU at 2GHz and let the user overclock it to however high it can go in that case.

The point is to win benchmarks in reviews that test at stock. Look at GTX 670 vs HD 7950, or GTX 680 vs non-GHz HD 7970. The GHz Edition 7970 was really pointless for enthusiasts, but it put AMD back at the top of the charts in reviews even though it changed absolutely nothing. Same goes for NVIDIA's GTX 770, though that roughly ties them with the 7970 GHz at best. The 7950 at 800MHz is severely underclocked, has nearly 50% of OC potential on average... the GTX 670 on the other hand is regularly boosting to >1050MHz and has much less headroom. The 670 kills the 7950 in the benchmarks on review sites, leading people to believe it's actually a better card when overclocked benchmarks show the 7950 often pulling ahead.

I hope that analogy doesn't turn this thread into a GPU argument, but knowing the news section, I have a feeling it's going to happen.
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Might as well just release every unlocked CPU at 2GHz and let the user overclock it to however high it can go in that case.

The point is to win benchmarks in reviews that test at stock. Look at GTX 670 vs HD 7950, or GTX 680 vs non-GHz HD 7970. The GHz Edition 7970 was really pointless for enthusiasts, but it put AMD back at the top of the charts in reviews even though it changed absolutely nothing. Same goes for NVIDIA's GTX 770, though that roughly ties them with the 7970 GHz at best. The 7950 at 800MHz is severely underclocked, has nearly 50% of OC potential on average... the GTX 670 on the other hand is regularly boosting to >1050MHz and has much less headroom. The 670 kills the 7950 in the benchmarks on review sites, leading people to believe it's actually a better card when overclocked benchmarks show the 7950 often pulling ahead.

I hope that analogy doesn't turn this thread into a GPU argument, but knowing the news section, I have a feeling it's going to happen.

GPUs are different though. You can plug them to pretty much any board and they all come with average sized coolers etc.

A CPU like this with a 220W TDP would most likely only be supported in certain AM3+ boards, it would almost certainly have some strict cooling requirements and so on. So basically it's already aimed at enthusiasts as a product. Sure it might just be a paper release or something to get AMD on top of graphs or something. Not like it's going to touch SB-E though.
 
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It doesn't cost much for AMD to attempt to troll Intel, aside from the extra binning and separate packaging. Even then, the profit margins would've been sufficient to cover any losses.
At least you aren't locked at some low TDP. The APUs, including the 5800K, throttle if their TDP is exceeded. I believe the throttling occurs even when the APU is at a safe operating temperature.

Turn off APM. APM is an AMD feature that locks chips to a specific TDP.

Regardless the point of this product is a halo product. Even though the gap between 4770k and FX 9000 power consumption is going to be huge, it's going to be a stock chip that can compete rather well against an Intel higher end stock chip. AMD hasn't had that in a very long time, it's good to see and AMD needs it, a lot of people still have FX 8150 on their minds when they think of AMD. It's about getting rid of that image. At least FX 9000 will be a good performer, even if power consumption is high.

It also is going to make people realize that this obsession over CPU power consumption is completely inane in enthusiast rigs, when you're throwing 600w of GPUs in your system, the difference between 130w FX 8350 and 84w 4770 seems really, really pointless to worry about.

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GPUs are different though. You can plug them to pretty much any board and they all come with average sized coolers etc.

A CPU like this with a 220W TDP would most likely only be supported in certain AM3+ boards, it would almost certainly have some strict cooling requirements and so on. So basically it's already aimed at enthusiasts as a product. Sure it might just be a paper release or something to get AMD on top of graphs or something. Not like it's going to touch SB-E though.

GK104 smaller die than Vishera, and GK104 is heralded for being so efficient.
Edited by sdlvx - 6/1/13 at 12:55pm
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Turn off APM. APM is an AMD feature that locks chips to a specific TDP.

Regardless the point of this product is a halo product. Even though the gap between 4770k and FX 9000 power consumption is going to be huge, it's going to be a stock chip that can compete rather well against an Intel higher end stock chip. AMD hasn't had that in a very long time, it's good to see and AMD needs it, a lot of people still have FX 8150 on their minds when they think of AMD. It's about getting rid of that image. At least FX 9000 will be a good performer, even if power consumption is high.

It also is going to make people realize that this obsession over CPU power consumption is completely inane in enthusiast rigs, when you're throwing 600w of GPUs in your system, the difference between 130w FX 8350 and 84w 4770 seems really, really pointless to worry about.
I have apm enabled too. Would that affect my overclock?
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It will TURBO to 5.0Ghz, most likely on 1 core, 2 cores tops. So basically it is a guaranteed 4.8Ghz chip with a hint of some extra headroom and I believe that there are quite a few mobos supporting FX cpus running at those clocks, even some cheap ones.

It is a toy for affluent people and a marketing tool for AMD too look cool on reviews. Or so it seems.
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