Originally Posted by Alatar
Originally Posted by Red1776
1) you have no idea what I was was trying to accomplish
it doesn't matter, temps over thermal threshold with high volts in a torture test for almost an hour is bad no matter how you look at it
2)you have no idea how many volts I had running through the chip
You were talking about many people running over 1.55v, you were using BD which is a worse OCer than PD and required generally quite a lot more volts for 5ghz and you were hitting 77C.
I think it's fair to say you were indeed using a ton of volts.
3) a short run of 77c is not by any means a death sentence for a bulldozer
Nope, but combined with high volts and an extreme load it can
be. And in any case it will definitely be bad for the CPU and is not something you should do if you care about the chip.
There's also absolutely no reason for doing it.
4) It was well under thermal specs for day to day use
Didn't question it. Doesn't make running an hour of 77C any more reasonable.
5) You need to be talking to your Intel brethren about exceeding thermal/voltage limits, not me
Been a while since I saw someone claiming they were able to run Ivy at 5.2ghz on air only to find out that they were constantly hitting 105C....
6) That chip is still alive and well (and holding its original overclock)
Didn't say it would die from it immediately.
However you're dramatically increasing the chances of killing it or getting a degraded chip.
7) I realize you think you know everything 'mate', but I have 20+ years in AMD experience and don't need your advice, but thanks for your concern over my chips safety.
Experience means nothing if you don't get more knowledge as a result of it. I couldn't care less if someone has been OCing since the dawn of time or just started out yesterday if they're saying something that doesn't make sense.
You were saying an air cooler can get a FX to 5.1ghz stable but showed a result where you exceeded the thermal limits of the chip.
8) I reported my experience with Big air and FX. I did not promote it, ask others to do it, I just reported on what I have done. if you don't like the results, you are certainly afforded every opportunity to not do it.
Of course you can post the result but it's just further proof that at least with BD you could not do a stable 5.1 on air.