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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

Yeah. That's a difference. But that CPU is at 4.0Ghz at 1.3v. Something is wrong.

Did you consider that voltage affects temperature much more than frequency does and he could be deliberately testing it?

He rose voltage by 0.03v without touching clock speed after delid and still got 20c cooler (maybe more, because before delid would throttle to hold back heat)
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Really, you are going to base your dreams on what a single employee said? Lol. No official information was ever labeled as such...please.

It's not up to you to decide what information is legit enough to have an effect on opinion or expectations and then point and laugh at people ^.^
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1762/pg12/4th-gen-intel-core-i7-4770k-processor-review-feat-gigabyte-g1sniper-5-motherboard-overclocking-and-power.html

HardwareHeaven got 5.4ghz @ 1.45 on corsair h100!!! Now something is definitely wrong here.
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post #173 of 858
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Did you consider that voltage affects temperature much more than frequency does and he could be deliberately testing it?

He rose voltage by 0.03v without touching clock speed after delid and still got 20c cooler (maybe more, because before delid would throttle to hold back heat)
It's not up to you to decide what information is legit enough to have an effect on opinion or expectations and then point and laugh at people ^.^

Well, unless there is an official release from a company on a product, I don't base anything off it. Even with an official release I hold back some in reservation.

It is one thing to speculate and have an idea of what is going to happen, but to actually start making plans around that, that is poor decision making.

That is just common sense.

Maybe I have an unfair advantage in being able to do the above, as well as having family on the engineering team that build Sandy, Ivy, and Haswell. Maybe the combination of Common Sense and a little more insight into the product culminated in a magical event of profound clarity.

I just call it "Not believing everything I am told, especially outside of official statements".
    
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post #174 of 858
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I think this is a rather harsh comment, and shows lack of understanding the situation. I will extend that to the people in here who thought they were going to see a big performance jump on the desktop segment, especially the higher end segment.

Haswell was never meant to be a ground breaking, earth shattering, over the top leap in performance for desktops. Intel clearly stated from the beginning they were focusing on mobile and iGPU, which they clearly succeeded in making vast improvements for. Anyone with a 2500K or better setup right now has no reason to go to Haswell, maybe if it didn't require a new platform I would recommend it for us with 2500Ks, but it requires a new platform.

Haswell is a great jump for someone on an AM2/AM3 platform, that can't be updated via a Bios update to AM3+ support, or LGA 775. You could also throw in low end 1155, like H61 platforms.

There really shouldn't be any disappointment in Haswell, it is performing exactly as expected. Well, as expected by those of us who knew what Intel was going for.

Okay I see your point. (Intel Worker)!!!
     
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Overall unimpressive. Where's the 100% gain in the integrated graphics?
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Okay I see your point. (Intel Worker)!!!

Eh....no.

I own an ISP, and have no connections with Intel, outside of the fact I have family on the engineering team.

I just tend to follow things a little more closely than others, and have realistic expectations of what a product release is going to accomplish. Especially when the company putting out the product, in this case Intel, says "We are focusing on mobile".

It is amazing that the OC community feels that every release of a new CPU or GPU should be bespoke to our needs, and cry in outrage when it doesn't fit our small and narrow definition of what leaps in performance are. It is a bit embarrassing to be honest...
    
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post #177 of 858
Disappointing, but I'll be buying haswell because

1. My current computer is being sold to a friend

2. My current computer is 3 years old and running an i7 870 so this will definitely be an upgrade for me.

I'll be de-lidding it for sure, at least the mobo's are not a disappointment.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrLtjgbga5g

shows otherwise. 4.6ghz on 1.180v with h100i and 1100rpm fans hits 87c on max load after 30min
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

I think this is a rather harsh comment, and shows lack of understanding the situation. I will extend that to the people in here who thought they were going to see a big performance jump on the desktop segment, especially the higher end segment.

Haswell was never meant to be a ground breaking, earth shattering, over the top leap in performance for desktops. Intel clearly stated from the beginning they were focusing on mobile and iGPU, which they clearly succeeded in making vast improvements for. Anyone with a 2500K or better setup right now has no reason to go to Haswell, maybe if it didn't require a new platform I would recommend it for us with 2500Ks, but it requires a new platform.

Haswell is a great jump for someone on an AM2/AM3 platform, that can't be updated via a Bios update to AM3+ support, or LGA 775. You could also throw in low end 1155, like H61 platforms.

There really shouldn't be any disappointment in Haswell, it is performing exactly as expected. Well, as expected by those of us who knew what Intel was going for.

Okay I see your point. (Intel Worker)!!!

I was being an ass. I guess you haven't seen my earlier post?
     
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Disappointing, but I'll be buying haswell because

1. My current computer is being sold to a friend

2. My current computer is 3 years old and running an i7 870 so this will definitely be an upgrade for me.

I'll be de-lidding it for sure, at least the mobo's are not a disappointment.

The mobos are SMEXY yessir.gif

I just saw a glowing orange Gigabyte Z87X-OC retailing for the same price as the Asus P8Z77 Pro wheee.gif
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Okay I see your point. (Intel Worker)!!!

I was being an ass. I guess you haven't seen my earlier post?

Oh, no, I didn't see it. I took it as though you were another person crying about not getting a new CPU that does 6450543 Ghz at 3c without a HSF of any sort. biggrin.gif
    
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