Originally Posted by pisstaker
That is some igp improvement, depending on how much of it translates to lower tdp processors without the edram, AMDs going to have some real trouble with igp performance
considering that moble cpu/mb is $500 alone i don't think AMD is sweating; that's a part with no market outside of a Mac Book Pro.
those overpriced peices of EQ come at a premium no one but an isheep would pay, AMD will compete just fine at the lower end of the market. Which is what Haswell is all about. an across the board price increase, to give AMD some room in the cheap cpu market to keep them around to avoid anti-trust investigations, a new part for the mac books, and competing with ARM.
there is no other point to Haswell that i can see.
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Not sure about other sites by the Intel monitoring software kept crashing for me so I had the time to log temps under an overclock but nothing else. I don't think any other software properly supports Haswell yet....
As for overclocking results, there are a few things I wanted to mention:
- Anything above 1.35V is (IMO) a great way to kill a chip if used over the long term.- I must have a freak chip since it didn't go above 80C @ 4.5GHz on a Noctua NH-U12S. And that's 3D stable...
- After trying for a few more hours this morning, it looks like I'm pretty much stuck at 4.6GHz or thereabouts.
- Haswell is NOT an overclocker's dream though the ridiculous number of BIOS options makes it LOOK like one....
you don't have a feak chip. All the reviewers are using robust water rigs for the most part. Furthermore, Tom's hardware had 12 i7's to test and only found 1 that would get to 4.7ghz. Most were stuck around 4.4-4.5
It's looking like Haswell overclocking will take expensive cooling systems, expensive motherboards, delidding and a great deal of luck to get to 5.0ghzEdited by azanimefan - 6/1/13 at 1:34pm