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Here is a review for Iris 5200
http://anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested

It beats HD7660D and rapes HD7660G.
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Eh....no.

I own an ISP, and have no connections with Intel, outside of the fact I have family on the engineering team.

I just tend to follow things a little more closely than others, and have realistic expectations of what a product release is going to accomplish. Especially when the company putting out the product, in this case Intel, says "We are focusing on mobile".

It is amazing that the OC community feels that every release of a new CPU or GPU should be bespoke to our needs, and cry in outrage when it doesn't fit our small and narrow definition of what leaps in performance are. It is a bit embarrassing to be honest...

Well they did lead the launch with the K series... But they also pulled their enthusiast reps a few weeks before launch... and had the NDA lift on a Saturday (no mainstream coverage). So yeah, I think Intel was playing some games on this one.
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1762/pg12/4th-gen-intel-core-i7-4770k-processor-review-feat-gigabyte-g1sniper-5-motherboard-overclocking-and-power.html

HardwareHeaven got 5.4ghz @ 1.45 on corsair h100!!! Now something is definitely wrong here.

I know better, but hoping it's possible with the better overclocking boards, good water cooling, some luck, and maybe even removing the IHS -- if it's not soldered on.
    
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Here is a review for Iris 5200
http://anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested

It beats HD7660D and rapes HD7660G.

If you think AMD drivers are bad, I have some pretty horrifying news for you regarding Intel's.
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That is some igp improvement, depending on how much of it translates to lower tdp processors without the edram, AMDs going to have some real trouble with igp performance

considering that moble cpu/mb is $500 alone i don't think AMD is sweating; that's a part with no market outside of a Mac Book Pro.

those overpriced peices of EQ come at a premium no one but an isheep would pay, AMD will compete just fine at the lower end of the market. Which is what Haswell is all about. an across the board price increase, to give AMD some room in the cheap cpu market to keep them around to avoid anti-trust investigations, a new part for the mac books, and competing with ARM.

there is no other point to Haswell that i can see.
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Not sure about other sites by the Intel monitoring software kept crashing for me so I had the time to log temps under an overclock but nothing else. I don't think any other software properly supports Haswell yet....

As for overclocking results, there are a few things I wanted to mention:

- Anything above 1.35V is (IMO) a great way to kill a chip if used over the long term.

- I must have a freak chip since it didn't go above 80C @ 4.5GHz on a Noctua NH-U12S. And that's 3D stable...

- After trying for a few more hours this morning, it looks like I'm pretty much stuck at 4.6GHz or thereabouts.

- Haswell is NOT an overclocker's dream though the ridiculous number of BIOS options makes it LOOK like one....

you don't have a feak chip. All the reviewers are using robust water rigs for the most part. Furthermore, Tom's hardware had 12 i7's to test and only found 1 that would get to 4.7ghz. Most were stuck around 4.4-4.5

It's looking like Haswell overclocking will take expensive cooling systems, expensive motherboards, delidding and a great deal of luck to get to 5.0ghz
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Here is a review for Iris 5200
http://anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested

It beats HD7660D and rapes HD7660G.

It is hard to compare graphics on mobile. It is the combo i7-4950HQ+5200 that beats A10-4600m+7660G-it's the cpu part that makes the difference. And the i7 combo is quite more expensive and (ofc) on a higher TDP.
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If you think AMD drivers are bad, I have some pretty horrifying news for you regarding Intel's.
I agree, game compatibility has been a big issue with Intel IGPs. They can have good performance in 3DMark and other synthetics but games have missing textures and crashing among other issues. If the game is some less known or old one, forget about it. Maybe they have finally made better drivers for Iris, I dunno.
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Interesting tidbit from Asus's overclocking guide:

 

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Additionally, Haswell has a more specialized point of consideration for synthetic stress tests. When using an adaptive VID,
voltage levels will be automatically increased by the iVR when AVX instructions are detected from an application. An example is noted below:

A defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 would produce a CPU voltage of 1.245 or 1.250 under a normal realworld multi-thread application under load.
 
Using the same defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 but running a synthetic stress test like Prime 95 with AVX, produces a CPU load voltage of 1.370.
 
This increase must be considered as it could induce thermal throttle and overwhelm the cooling capabilities of the thermal solution being used.
post #209 of 858
Eh.

Haswell achieved what it set out to do. Mobile power consumption and huge increases with IGPs for mobile parts.

Basically what this means is that even in the graphics department AMD is now just going for the price/perf since they can't go for the best perf there anymore either.... HD5200 performs wonderfully. Just like it was rumored to.

None of that means anything to me however unless I'm shopping for an ultrabook or an HTPC. 4770K might be pretty lame in some aspects but Haswell in general definitely isn't.
 
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post #210 of 858

Just like we expected, better memory OC, ~10% performance increase, similar OC. I'm waiting to see some delidded OC comparisons with IB.

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