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I use Aida64 Extreme, I'm not really a Prime fan.
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Originally Posted by Noupoi View Post

The HardOCP review didn't think Aida64 was a very good stress test.
Seems like we're going to need a new way to check if a system is stable...

Aida is a little tricky, because they actually have 5 or so tests available, and different combinations run different things. So if you want something to replicate Prime, just select FPU. So I don't think the hardocp guys were using Aida "right." If you just leave everything on, it will cycle through so many different tests it could take a week to pick up an instability in the FPU (or a heat-related instability) that Prime would get right away.

Personally, it was very helpful to run the memory/cache tests alone and find that my instability was caused by something in that area. So the I upped my PLL and got stable. Prime doesn't really have that option.
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Why in gods name is he using 1.3 for 4ghz?

Even though he has royally screwed up,that is a nice drop in temps,with a normal voltage that would be even less.
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Interesting tidbit from Asus's overclocking guide:
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Additionally, Haswell has a more specialized point of consideration for synthetic stress tests. When using an adaptive VID,

voltage levels will be automatically increased by the iVR when AVX instructions are detected from an application. An example is noted below:


A defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 would produce a CPU voltage of 1.245 or 1.250 under a normal realworld multi-thread application under load.
 
Using the same defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 but running a synthetic stress test like Prime 95 with AVX, produces a CPU load voltage of 1.370.
 
This increase must be considered as it could induce thermal throttle and overwhelm the cooling capabilities of the thermal solution being used.

this post by Forceman might answer your question. well if this adaptive VID was enabled that is.
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The HardOCP review didn't think Aida64 was a very good stress test.

Seems like we're going to need a new way to check if a system is stable...

tbh, I didn't think [H] using a low end Z87 board for the review made sense so I didn't read it. not surprised there was any throttling or instability with an entry level board (the Z87 A replaces the P8Z77-V LX as far as I can tell) with that thing at 5ghz. maybe they should use a better motherboard and see if that helps.
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i can't believe the nerds that are like "pass I guess I won't have to spend $300 every single year on every new iteration of a processor"

upgrade once ever four or five years like a normal human being and save a thousand dollars in the process
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Thats not 10%.........Also, anandtech compare is not regarded as proof. All the reviews on first page give better side by side comparisons, and limit external factors. Just go to the first page and read the today reviews, they show substantially less than 10% on most tests.

 

I actually read them all before posting, and the performance increase seems to be 10%. Sure, in some tests (usually the ones that heavily rely on cache I/O) the performance increase isn't anywhere near 10% or might even be lower than IB, but that doesn't reflect to anything in real world.

 

The thing that a lot reviewers, and readers, missed is that Haswell responds to higher clocked memories differently to IB and using memory at 1600/1866 MHz (which most reviews did because it's the highest officially supported clock) makes absolutely no sense because it makes more of a bottleneck for Haswell than IB (talking about limiting external factors).

 

The exceptions were Anand and Vortez that used 2400 MHz memories and you can see that both show around 10% increase in most of their tests compared to lower differences when tests are @ 1600 MHz.


Edited by Arman1 - 6/1/13 at 3:16pm
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this post by Forceman might answer your question. well if this adaptive VID was enabled that is.

Cheers,missed that bit.It just shows that using the adaptive is a waste then.
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Did any of the reviews do a delidding comparison?
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Not impressive at all, not upgrading...
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Looks good for laptop users but that's about it. I'm running an i5 760 @ 4.0 Ghz and still won't upgrade until they fix the stupid thermal issues.
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Did any of the reviews do a delidding comparison?

TTL says he's going to be doing one for OC3D.
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