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I really like most of the Z87 boards, but I can't justify dropping a premium that will cost me near $100 (cpu/z87/better cooler) when I can get like performance at a cheaper price point from Z77. I honestly just like the Mobos better, but they don't do anything the Z77 can't.
    
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Is it me that is blind. But why does many of the review sites not report temps? Or do they and I just can't see them smile.gif ?
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Haswell on its own and for someone coming from Nehalem, is a fine upgrade, but everybody else on SB, SB-e and IB it's a "meh", and for enthusiasts it's a pass. If the overclocking headroom keeps getting smaller, that means that for overclockers on SB, SB-e or IB the difference in performance at the highest max. overclocks is diminute.

Nothing unexpected. Intel is not hoping people on SB and IB upgrade to Haswell anyway, this is more tailored for new users, people on Nehalem or older who might want / need to upgrade and above all, the mobile sector.
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So when the retail leaks started hitting there were several claims of "you'll be pleasantly surprised with OCing Haswell, we just can't talk about it until NDA is up."

OK, NDA is up so let's see some positive OC information. Hope it's not a flood of de-lidding how-tos.
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Seems there is a combination of heat density and contact pressure that's keeping these from being cooler when overclocked. I'm certain the ability to dissipate heat will be much better if Intel made their 6 to 8-core parts using 22nm.

Heat density would be similar with these parts.
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So essentially Sandy and Ivy owners have nothing to worry about?

Not sure how a new part not beating an old one significantly is good for anyone...
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So when the retail leaks started hitting there were several claims of "you'll be pleasantly surprised with OCing Haswell, we just can't talk about it until NDA is up."

OK, NDA is up so let's see some positive OC information. Hope it's not a flood of de-lidding how-tos.

So far OCing seems to be on par with Ivy, which is at least better than rumors of not being able to OC much at all.
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Hardly surprised. Tell you what i am surprised about, anyone recall thatIntel Engineer do an AMA on Reddit a little while ago? Said "Haswell would be an overclocker's dream". Irony.

He probably though being able to OC like X79 is going to make the mainstream users OC more and happy.

Whats sad is not the minimalistic performance enhancements. Its the fact that we are set for the future with these weak CPU. We already know IVY-E, Haswell-E performance and its not good and one is at least 1-2 years away.
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So when the retail leaks started hitting there were several claims of "you'll be pleasantly surprised with OCing Haswell, we just can't talk about it until NDA is up."

OK, NDA is up so let's see some positive OC information. Hope it's not a flood of de-lidding how-tos.
They may be on Intel payroll or most likely those people are using LN2 and delidded chips. In other words, irrelevant for normal users.

Reminds me of the Bulldozer launch. Every leak said that it will be a failure but AMD rep (JF-AMD?) was claiming it will be superior and have better IPC compared to Phenom II.
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He probably though being able to OC like X79 is going to make the mainstream users OC more and happy.

Whats sad is not the minimalistic performance enhancements. Its the fact that we are set for the future with these weak CPU. We already know IVY-E, Haswell-E performance and its not good and one is at least 1-2 years away.

 

Was thinking the same thing really. Though it's not that bad of a news for my WS plans. They do add moar cores.

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Not sure how a new part not beating an old one significantly is good for anyone...

i agree that no change is bad for everyone, but for the owners of the Sandy/Ivy CPUs don't need to worry as much of their tech getting older. (though market wise they are the minority that benefits)


too bad intel doesn't push more but i understand why they choose to do so. (at least two reasons besides the obvious one that they can)
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So when the retail leaks started hitting there were several claims of "you'll be pleasantly surprised with OCing Haswell, we just can't talk about it until NDA is up."

OK, NDA is up so let's see some positive OC information. Hope it's not a flood of de-lidding how-tos.

Yeah, CL3P20's 4.8GHz at under 1v "leak/hype" doesn't seem to be anywhere near the average.


[H] wins for best review IMO.
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