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it's probably bull****, but if it isn't, it's definitely referring to the BCLK straps, and i haven't seen a single review address those, all the overclocking so far has been done through multiplier

DING! DING! DING!

we have a winner!
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Why are so many people with IB and SB processors complaing about the performance increase or lack thereof? Shouldn't you be glad the product you bought 1 or 2 years ago is still relevant?

The way I see it this is a great upgrade for me coming from bloomfield. My motherboard can't do sata 3 ssd speeds, only sata 2. Has no internal usb 3.0 header and this chip runs hotter than any of the chips that have came out since. No pci-e 3.0 on my board either making it somewhat silly to buy a gtx 670 or higher card right now until I upgrade.

Maybe intel doesn't release products that need to be upgraded every single year? I can't believe how much its bothering people that they now don't have to spend $300 this year to upgrade....I understand we all want the fastest stuff available and advances in technology are great. The way I see it intel has nothing to really push for.. its not like amd's chips are really going punch for punch with intel's so they can afford not to release stuff that is astromonically better then the previous.

I mean if you are already ahead in a marathon.. would you spend more energry getting farther ahead or keep the same pace?
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So what are the temps? And is delidding possible (not that I'd try it)
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Why are so many people with IB and SB processors complaing about the performance increase or lack thereof? Shouldn't you be glad the product you bought 1 or 2 years ago is still relevant?

because the people on this forum are addicted to hardware like some people are addicted to plastic surgery
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another point you hit on is probably the saddest part of computer hardware and gaming

games are currently GPU bound on anything after sandy bridge at 1080p/high settings

i loved hardocp's review because they actually ran benchmarks on 640 x 480 on the lowest setting to illustrate this
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So what are the temps? And is delidding possible (not that I'd try it)
Delid prolly possible.

70degC on 4.5GHz.
90degC on 4.6GHz.
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Why are so many people with IB and SB processors complaing about the performance increase or lack thereof? Shouldn't you be glad the product you bought 1 or 2 years ago is still relevant?

The way I see it this is a great upgrade for me coming from bloomfield. My motherboard can't do sata 3 ssd speeds, only sata 2. Has no internal usb 3.0 header and this chip runs hotter than any of the chips that have came out since. No pci-e 3.0 on my board either making it somewhat silly to buy a gtx 670 or higher card right now until I upgrade.

Maybe intel doesn't release products that need to be upgraded every single year? I can't believe how much its bothering people that they now don't have to spend $300 this year to upgrade....I understand we all want the fastest stuff available and advances in technology are great. The way I see it intel has nothing to really push for.. its not like amd's chips are really going punch for punch with intel's so they can afford not to release stuff that is astromonically better then the previous.

I mean if you are already ahead in a marathon.. would you spend more energry getting farther ahead or keep the same pace?

You won't notice any difference between SATA2 and 3, PCI-E 2.0 is enough even for Titan. Do you even have an USB 3 device?
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You won't notice any difference between SATA2 and 3, PCI-E 2.0 is enough even for Titan. Do you even have an USB 3 device?

Can actually get some use out of extra PCI-E slots to patch up any gaps two open slots can take care of USB 3 and SATA3 support. PCI-E 3.0 is the only one that would have to be from a whole platform upgrade. Majority with a 4+GHz Nehalem, SB, or IB can probably wait until DDR4 systems show up.
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Hardware heaven got theirs up to 5.4 GHz?
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Why are so many people with IB and SB processors complaing about the performance increase or lack thereof? Shouldn't you be glad the product you bought 1 or 2 years ago is still relevant?

Only if they don't need more performance.
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You won't notice any difference between SATA2 and 3, PCI-E 2.0 is enough even for Titan. Do you even have an USB 3 device?

Generally true.

I have USB 3 devices, but I don't really need more than what cheap 3rd party controllers can do, yet.
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