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Originally Posted by Evil Penguin View Post

Did Intel use crappy thermal paste between the IHS and die again?

Yes. It's junk.

People are already starting to delid them and seeing marked improvements, just as with the 3770K's. So while the 4 series does use less volts, to get to a reasonable OC is not only a luck of the draw, but just like before, if you want to go to extreme, you have to delid.


https://twitter.com/88NP_16F/status/340865604506492928
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 6/3/13 at 7:50am
post #512 of 858
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Just read some of the reviews...

Little better memory results at stock. Otherwise, really, only a seemingly minute change in performance. No reason to upgrade from Ivy, and still a hard argument to upgrade from Sandy rolleyes.gif

I guess the new motherboard chipset offers some extras which might be a reason to upgrade?

1150 will be there for Broadwell, as well as Haswell much needed revision teaching.gif. The designs are superb across the manufacturers. You get better/higher memory support; as many SATA-3 6Gbps, PCI-e, etc as you could want; UEFI BIOS has been highly refined from Ivy; fairly modest boards have more than "good enough" Power Phases and the quality of the mobo's components have been stepped up big time; manufacturers are adding as much little things as they can, and some nice additions like AMP chips. Those are mid to mid-high tier mainstream motherboards, not enthusiast ASUS RoG/Gigabyte UP5-7 models, mind it. And those boards are delicious, almost every model seems made to be looked at, tweaked and OCed. biggrin.gif

It's only that the 1st CPU meant to rest in them isn't up to the challenge. lachen.gifdrunken.gif
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1150 will be there for Broadwell, as well as Haswell much needed revision teaching.gif. The designs are superb across the manufacturers. You get better/higher memory support; as many SATA-3 6Gbps, PCI-e, etc as you could want; UEFI BIOS has been highly refined from Ivy; fairly modest boards have more than "good enough" Power Phases and the quality of the mobo's components have been stepped up big time; manufacturers are adding as much little things as they can, and some nice additions like AMP chips. Those are mid to mid-high tier mainstream motherboards, not enthusiast ASUS RoG/Gigabyte UP5-7 models, mind it. And those boards are delicious, almost every model seems made to be looked at, tweaked and OCed. biggrin.gif

It's only that the 1st CPU meant to rest in them isn't up to the challenge. lachen.gifdrunken.gif
mmm delicious motherboards mmmmmmmmm...
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mmm delicious motherboards mmmmmmmmm...



Nyom nyom nyom drool.gif

EDIT: Gonna get one of those for Frickfrock's BDay. biggrin.gif
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Yes. It's junk.

People are already starting to delid them and seeing marked improvements, just as with the 3770K's. So while the 4 series does use less volts, to get to a reasonable OC is not only a luck of the draw, but just like before, if you want to go to extreme, you have to delid.


https://twitter.com/88NP_16F/status/340865604506492928

Actually if you want to go extreme you don't want to delid tongue.gif

Only people who will want to delid their chips are the ones that are looking for a max OC on watercooling.
 
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post #516 of 858
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Yes. It's junk.

People are already starting to delid them and seeing marked improvements, just as with the 3770K's. So while the 4 series does use less volts, to get to a reasonable OC is not only a luck of the draw, but just like before, if you want to go to extreme, you have to delid.


https://twitter.com/88NP_16F/status/340865604506492928
Well that's incredibly lame... mad.gif
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I was testing vantage on air with 4670k at 4.8ghz.. not sure what all the fuss is about with these HW clock scares..

What happened to those 6Ghz runs that I heard about...? whistle.gif

I posted them on OCN and hwbot.. look around a bit bro.. I aint hard to find
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I can't believe some people think Haswell will end AMD's APU reign. How? The HD4600 on these desktop parts is still quiet a bit slower than Trinity, and Richland is being released in a matter of days with an expected 10% boost in graphics performance for the A10 (Clock changes and better binning) and 20% for the A8 (Moving up to full 384 shader units) AMD is still going to demolish integrated graphics on the desktop.

As far as the HD5200 beating the 7660G, it doesn't really matter either. The mobile Richland chips will see a slight boost in graphics performance and bounce up closer to the HD5200 in performance. Not to mention, unless the HD5200 is going to be found in your run of the mill mobile Core i3's, it won't matter because the price point of an A10 laptop is much lower than the price point of a Core i7 laptop. You're going to literally be able to get an A10-Richland based laptop for as little as $400, where as a Core i7 laptop is going to run you $800 at the least.
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trade off vs AMD APU's...
Intel still has superior computing strength while AMD still has GPU including the Hybrid CF-X.

still the CPU (computing) is lacking..
post #520 of 858
Anyone have any idea when the ASUS ROG boards are being released? I have looked everywhere and cant find any, I hope its soon because I already have my 4770K enroute. The Giga boards are looking enticing, even the MSI boards are looking nice....
 
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