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all you need to know about haswel sumed up nicely biggrin.gif
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all you need to know about haswel sumed up nicely biggrin.gif

Logan and his peeps are still absolutely clueless about hardware and overclocking.

I wanted to bash them in the comments for all the crap they said there but decided against it. Not worth getting downvoted.

I would just ignore any video they make on the performance of any piece of hardware or overclocking it.
 
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all you need to know about haswel sumed up nicely biggrin.gif

He wants to be Wayne static from Static-x or what?
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Logan and his peeps are still absolutely clueless about hardware and overclocking.

I wanted to bash them in the comments for all the crap they said there but decided against it. Not worth getting downvoted.

I would just ignore any video they make on the performance of any piece of hardware or overclocking it.

oh Come on. Have some of this and bash away. tongue.gif
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Intel has gotten complacent, while amd is working their butts off. Not to long till we see some competition again. Intel still loses in the low end and htpc segment for value. Their high end lead is shrinking.
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Intel has gotten complacent, while amd is working their butts off. Not to long till we see some competition again. Intel still loses in the low end and htpc segment for value. Their high end lead is shrinking.

Intel isn't stupid. They're doing exactly what they should be doing, working on the mobile side of things where ARM is a big threat. Power consumption and igp increases are now important to intel.

They have nothing to worry about when it comes desktop CPUs either though. IB/Haswell die sizes are ridiculously small compared to Piledriver. If it looks like AMD is going to catch up Intel can just release a 6-core chip.

They're also more than ready for high end parts... If intel wanted to they could roll out a 12-core IB-E i7 in September with other IB-EP chips. Unfortunately they just don't have the need.
 
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One more thing do you know when they will release the second revision?
Sadly I don't
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Logan and his peeps are still absolutely clueless about hardware and overclocking.

I wanted to bash them in the comments for all the crap they said there but decided against it. Not worth getting downvoted.

I would just ignore any video they make on the performance of any piece of hardware or overclocking it.

What did he say that was wrong? I'm sorry, do you actually have a Core i7 4770K or Core i5 3570K? Have you actually messed with one yet?
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Intel isn't stupid. They're doing exactly what they should be doing, working on the mobile side of things where ARM is a big threat. Power consumption and igp increases are now important to intel.

Can't +rep you enough for this comment. Some of the comments in this thread are just unbelievable, it's like they're completely unaware of what market place conditions are like for intel now - desktop sales dropping by double digits every quarter (Q1 2013 the worst quarter in 20 years) while Mobile sales are going up by 500%. ARM is a huge threat and if intel doesn't make themselves relevant in the ultra mobile space, they won't be a business 10-20 years from now; Intel HAS to do this. They MUST focus on efficiency even if it is at the sacrifice of desktop IPC.

Personally, I think desktop haswell is nice. Now with that said, the desktop user in me is NOT pleased by the overclocking, but I completely understand what intel is doing here and will not whine about it - Haswell isn't going to be a good upgrade for those wanting a yearly iteration, but for someone building a new system or a pre-SB system upgrade, Haswell is the clear choice. A 4.3-4.4GHz Haswell should match a 4.7Ghz ivy bridge anyway. I don't see what the big deal and all the fuss is about, we KNEW that intel was focusing on efficiency. Their business prospects 20 years from now depends on that.

While desktop haswell is nice (and like I said not a great upgrade for those wanting a yearly upgrade iteration), mobile Haswell is going to be remarkable. I personally cannot wait for the ULV Haswell tablets and convertibles to hit the marketplace, I definitely would love to get one. 13 hours of battery life? Yes please.
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Can't +rep you enough for this comment. Some of the comments in this thread are just unbelievable, it's like they're completely unaware of what market place conditions are like for intel now - desktop sales dropping by double digits every quarter (Q1 2013 the worst quarter in 20 years) while Mobile sales are going up by 500%. ARM is a huge threat and if intel doesn't make themselves relevant in the ultra mobile space, they won't be a business 10-20 years from now; Intel HAS to do this. They MUST focus on efficiency even if it is at the sacrifice of desktop IPC.

Personally, I think desktop haswell is nice. It isn't going to be a good upgrade for those wanting a yearly iteration, but for someone building a new system or a pre-SB system upgrade, Haswell is the clear choice. A 4.3-4.4GHz Haswell should match a 4.7Ghz ivy bridge anyway. I don't see what the big deal and all the fuss is about, we KNEW that intel was focusing on efficiency. Their business prospects 20 years from now depends on that.

While desktop haswell is nice (and like I said not a great upgrade for those wanting a yearly upgrade iteration), mobile Haswell is going to be remarkable. I personally cannot wait for the ULV Haswell tablets and convertibles to hit the marketplace, I definitely would love to get one. 13 hours of battery life? Yes please.

I agree with the most of the points but where did you see a 4.3 Ghz haswell match a 4.7 Ghz ivy?
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