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post #61 of 858
I think it's hilarious how everyone complains. tongue.gif


"Oh it can't hit 5GHz reliably!? It's useless!"

"Intel failed big time! The only improvement is with power consumption, and that's only good for laptops!"

"Looks like it's AMD's chance to catch up!"


Really people, look at the big picture. Enthusiasts only account for the upper 1-2% for profits for Intel. They only do it to appease the masses really. tongue.gif If you really need something THAT much faster than what's out, then you've got serious problems. rolleyes.gif
     
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two thing hindering upgrade to haswell from SB and IB .. the one is the total cost of system since it need new mb and the second is the oc potential which is the main concern for every one buying K series
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

I think it's hilarious how everyone complains. tongue.gif


"Oh it can't hit 5GHz reliably!? It's useless!"

"Intel failed big time! The only improvement is with power consumption, and that's only good for laptops!"

"Looks like it's AMD's chance to catch up!"


Really people, look at the big picture. Enthusiasts only account for the upper 1-2% for profits for Intel. They only do it to appease the masses really. tongue.gif If you really need something THAT much faster than what's out, then you've got serious problems. rolleyes.gif

Well, this is overclock.net. It's not that I/we don't understand why Intel doesn't care or bother to push the envelope on overclocking or why they don't cater to our needs. That reason is obvious as we make up such a minority. That doesn't mean we shouldn't complain at all though. Being on this site, I would think that every person on here would be disappointed with any kind of release that brings such minimal improvements in the area's we care about. Naturally on a overclocking site, we are going to care about, well overclocking and everything that goes with it; temps, voltages, etc.
post #64 of 858
Well, I read about half of those reviews and I'm completely uninspired. Add the fact that you also have to get a new mobo and it's definitely a no-go for me. Staying with SB for now since I really don't think an upgrade to IB or Haswell will improve my gaming experience whatsoever.

Looks like a new monitor and video card (GTX 780) are in my future. thumb.gif
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So there's no point upgrading the 4770k from a i5 3570k?
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post #66 of 858
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

If you really need something THAT much faster than what's out, then you've got serious problems. rolleyes.gif
What? Even 3930K @ 4,6GHz is not enough for rock solid 120fps in BF3 and you are telling me that I don't need more power? rolleyes.gif

Almost all CPU benchmarks are made using single player timedemos (not actual gameplay) and only tell avg fps, not minimum. I've experienced plenty of CPU bottlenecking in multiplayer games, especially FPS and MMO games.
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post #67 of 858
Honestly? More raw power and better battery life. I really don't understand where the problem is. Intel has always made it clear that Haswell was built for mobile platform. From the start. At no point did they ever say it was going to be any thing useful for desktop.

I swear, some times people like to complain. Kind of like wanting to buy a Ford Focus, then complain that you can not get 300 mph while getting 40 mpg and towing 30,000 lbs.

"But you can't overclock" argument is getting old. Let me help you out with something. Overclocking on a tablet or laptop is about as pointless as placing nitro on a scooter. Yes this is an overclocking site. Yes, it is a major part of your computer use. But if that was true, then haswell should have never been on your radar to begin with.
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post #68 of 858
I'm happier with the results than expected

But I guess for just gaming I might as well just snag a cheap 2600k, sell my 2500k and be happy
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With reports of overclocking difficulties at even the 4.5-4.6ghz range (as reported at toms and hardwarecanucks), desktop haswell definitely left me uninspired. I was definitely expecting more in terms of overclocking, and I was ready to plunk down the cash for it tomorrow. As things are, now, i'm just going to wait for IB-E and get that instead. Or maybe i'll get SB-E.

As a mobile platform, however, I think Haswell is a game changer. It really isn't a secret that Haswell was designed for mobility and not desktop, and in this area it should be a game-changer. Looking forward to getting a Haswell refreshed rMBP whenever it is released. Like it or not, intel is more concerned about mobility, efficiency and performance per watt as that is what is selling for mainstream computing right now - desktop is only a secondary consideration. It sucks, but what can you do.
Edited by xoleras - 6/1/13 at 9:21am
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