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take my word for it ..since I can't get a link I ask for (it's different source ),don't panic tho it could be just bad batch like GTx 570 which resulted in lacked nVIDIAs for everyone ,it's actually pretty normal there always few of them when new CPU hits the market ,first SB chips were dropping like fly's also,one thing for sure they are not as resilient as Ivy chips and more like SB
    
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Yeah, sounds like fixed or the Sandy/Ivy-style offset is probably the safe choice for now. 

Yeah, looks like that is the safest way till whatever is causing the problem is resolved in an update.
    
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I never am the first one to buy anyways, always sit back for a moment to 'peep' the scene..
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Originally Posted by altsanity View Post

I know that, I'm just saying that drying up TIM is a big reason old pc's are dumped (IHS or cooler).

The gap filler used under most CPU IHSes (that don't use solder) doesn't dry up; it's got almost no volatiles in the first place, and is usually heated during assembly to evaporate most of what's left. Dry-out and bleed are not acceptable attributes for something that cannot normally be replaced.

You can damage it with powerful solvents if you go overboard cleaning them, but I'd be amazed if the TIM degraded enough to need replacing in less than ~10 years without such treatment.
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It's a long vid but a good one
Tremendously informative. +1
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Originally Posted by malmental View Post

I never am the first one to buy anyways, always sit back for a moment to 'peep' the scene..

Same here, let the early adopters get screwed by all the new problems. Then wait until everything's sorted out.
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Same here, let the early adopters get screwed by all the new problems. Then wait until everything's sorted out.
I can't wait that long biggrin.gif
post #648 of 858
The truth is. The next gen processor will be much better because they will learn from the mistake made twice. IB / Haswell. So I do recomend all of you to skip this time. If you have extra cash to spend on Haswell, use the money on other hardware. I'm sure you will be more hsppy when the next gen came out and you going to look back and say. " I was right" wink.gif
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So if I want to use my ivy bridge CPU for more then 3 years I'm going to have to delid it?

***...

No, you won't. I've got a Athlon64 that has TIM under the IHS according to what I've read about it and its temperatures are still good. It still ran cooler than my FX (And definitely my i5) even though the FX was under a TRUE and the Athlon64 was under a FX stock cooler.
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Yes but once it is out you should ask us again if it is worth the upgrade wink.gif

Luckily, we can already see the benefits of a larger L1 cache and split decoders in motherboards that allow you to disable the second core in each module on an FX.
    
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@skyn3t, I guess you right since they already have learn from.." made twice. IB / Haswell..." what happen to SB ? rolleyes.gif,if you don't want it then don't buy it ,but please keep you half S advice's (same crap every gen.) to yourself ,there is a lot of folks waiting to upgrade and they don't care about 5.0
    
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