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67 on a cpu even if overclocked isn't good at all.
Especially since you using a high end watercooling solution with only this attached.
If you want it for overclocking I advise to either delid it or to wait till the second revision which will have this fixed if it turns out to be real bad.

Im sorry, but stop spreading miss information around. Those kind of temps are normal..
Specially with the throttle set by intel cpus on the 100c.
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

I don't see what the big deal and all the fuss is about, we KNEW that intel was focusing on efficiency. Their business prospects 20 years from now depends on that.
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Big deal is that Intel reps that talk alot of BS on reddit and on twitter, showing zero respect, thats what the big deal is, for me atleast.
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Integrated graphics barely got faster, it's still too slow. Load power consumption is extremely close to ivy. Runs very hot, maybe hotter than Ivy. So we got a tiny bit higher IPC, the same OC headroom and slightly better idle power consumption? Very disappointing.

Wasn't worth waiting for. AMD, feel free to save us from this idiocy any time. I'm forced to buy a 4670k even though it's disappointing because your chips are much worse.

You could always buy a sandy or ivy and save some dough and get same performance.
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Big deal is that Intel reps that talk alot of BS on reddit and on twitter, showing zero respect, thats what the big deal is, for me atleast.

Lol right cuz... AMD never talks a big game and fails to deliver, right?

Too soon?
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isn't that called 'marketing'...
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Originally Posted by zGunBLADEz View Post

Im sorry, but stop spreading miss information around. Those kind of temps are normal..
Specially with the throttle set by intel cpus on the 100c.
He is running watercooling and it has been proven that deliding bring the temps down to where they should be.
I wasn't talking about killing the cpu I was talking about what you're comfy with I don't want a proc with high end cooling running hot like it is in a laptop.
Anyone with a little common sense gets that.
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He is running watercooling and it has been proven that deliding bring the temps down to where they should be.
I wasn't talking about killing the cpu I was talking about what you're comfy with I don't want a proc with high end cooling running hot like it is in a laptop.
Anyone with a little common sense gets that.

I had a h100 and returned because it was lacking BAD, and that thing is no better than a high end air cooler which requires high rpm fans to function properly...

Those temps are great for his config...
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Intel isn't stupid. They're doing exactly what they should be doing, working on the mobile side of things where ARM is a big threat. Power consumption and igp increases are now important to intel.

They have nothing to worry about when it comes desktop CPUs either though. IB/Haswell die sizes are ridiculously small compared to Piledriver. If it looks like AMD is going to catch up Intel can just release a 6-core chip.

They're also more than ready for high end parts... If intel wanted to they could roll out a 12-core IB-E i7 in September with other IB-EP chips. Unfortunately they just don't have the need.

Yeah AMD would get stomped in a microsecond as soon as Intel actually tries again. We should have had 6 and 8 core intels with 12 and 16 threads by now. Intel is worried about ARM and that's why they will be here in the long run.

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Can't +rep you enough for this comment. Some of the comments in this thread are just unbelievable, it's like they're completely unaware of what market place conditions are like for intel now - desktop sales dropping by double digits every quarter (Q1 2013 the worst quarter in 20 years) while Mobile sales are going up by 500%. ARM is a huge threat and if intel doesn't make themselves relevant in the ultra mobile space, they won't be a business 10-20 years from now; Intel HAS to do this. They MUST focus on efficiency even if it is at the sacrifice of desktop IPC.

Personally, I think desktop haswell is nice. Now with that said, the desktop user in me is NOT pleased by the overclocking, but I completely understand what intel is doing here and will not whine about it - Haswell isn't going to be a good upgrade for those wanting a yearly iteration, but for someone building a new system or a pre-SB system upgrade, Haswell is the clear choice. A 4.3-4.4GHz Haswell should match a 4.7Ghz ivy bridge anyway. I don't see what the big deal and all the fuss is about, we KNEW that intel was focusing on efficiency. Their business prospects 20 years from now depends on that.

While desktop haswell is nice (and like I said not a great upgrade for those wanting a yearly upgrade iteration), mobile Haswell is going to be remarkable. I personally cannot wait for the ULV Haswell tablets and convertibles to hit the marketplace, I definitely would love to get one. 13 hours of battery life? Yes please.


Yup... And this is why Intel will be around in 20 years and AMD (as we know it) won't.
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You mean the Athlon64 that ran cooler with the stock cooler from an FX than my FX did with a bloody TRUE? Or the two billion Celerons and P4s I have (Pulled from dead machines) from that era?
Nope, the reason those CPUs overheat with age is a little thing called dust, most computer deaths that I've seen tend to be the HDD or PSU. (Or both!)

I agree with this. Dust is the #1 culprit of all computer failures I have to deal with.

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Excellent point about laptops, and a very good example of what I was referring to. I've worked with numerous laptops that people claimed to be very slow or randomly shutting down, at it's almost always due to overheating due to the factory TIM.

Really? I always find its almost always because of dust clogging the intake fan mainly because people never clean them.

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Lol right cuz... AMD never talks a big game and fails to deliver, right?

Too soon?

Hey, you made me spit my coke out LOL
 
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Been checking Newegg stock on Z87 motherboards. Don't seem to be selling that fast since release. I think I will wait for 2011 IB-E launch in September and use that until Haswell-E in 2015.
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so basically haswell has the same problem as ivy. so if i want a long durable chip i have to buy a 2600k/2700k and oc it to 4.5-4.8? or does the problem with thingie inside lol affect also 2011 cpus?

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