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Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post

so... rumors out of England are claiming that Haswell has a bigger heat issue then we're lead to believe. It seems that intel cherry picked the best cpus to send out to reviewers and that the commertial product has a far greater heat issue, and much lower overclocks.

you can read more here

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/382267/intel-haswell-hotter-and-slower-than-expected

the part that alarms me is that this article seems to mesh with a rumor i've heard from a friend in the industry, which was that 1 out of 4 haswell not being able to clock higher then 4.0ghz, and that a number have actually destroyed themselves on the stock heat-sink and stock settings. That there is an insanely high return number on the early chips for being faulty or melting in the motherboard. granted this is a rumor from a dude who wouldn't know from personal experience, but he works at newegg... and would know through the grapevine. Anyone have any experience to verify or deny this?

Obviously if this is true then those with the "samples" will have had a radically different experience, so i guess i'm asking what people with the actual production run haswell are getting. That article seems to claim 4.5 is the absolute max overclock, and that 4.2 seems to be the most you'll get on air no matter what the chip.

Don't people that get bad products generally leave bad product reviews?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

So this "insanely high number of returns for being faulty" has resulted in....zero < 4 star reviews. Your friend sounds legit.
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Originally Posted by Pheesh View Post

Don't people that get bad products generally leave bad product reviews?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

So this "insanely high number of returns for being faulty" has resulted in....zero < 4 star reviews. Your friend sounds legit.
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it performs well but is a flamethrower
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Originally Posted by Belial View Post

It's unlikely that you really need more than an i5-2500K 4.5ghz+ no matter what game you play. Only for enthusiast applications do you really need anything more than a 2500K, ie streaming, high level encoding, cpu scrypt work, etc. I'd say the vast majority of users on OCN don't even bench or actually utilize CPU overclocks, it's just gamers, and for them it's all about the GPU.

I mean there's only so many people here who play starcraft, wow, moba's, which are very 'outdated' games in a cpu utilization sense and thus need the strongest 2 core CPU's you can basically get. Even the 3 AAA titles out right now that actually use more than 4 cores, are so GPU limited that they could care less what CPU you have. Exception might be Crysis3 which is just a lot more demanding than any other game but that game will also make a 7950 shut up.

I'd love to see a proper VRM review by Sin, I think a lot of us are asking if we should get the Asus Z87-A or is the Gigabyte UD4H for $34 worth it (at microcenter). I think on most online places the choice is mostly UD3H vs Z87-A vs Extreme3.

Even a stock Core i5 is fine for anyone with a single GPU.
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I'll probably upgrade to haswell from sandy bridge. Electricity prices in my state of Australia went up 20% in the last year frown.gif
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I'll probably upgrade to haswell from sandy bridge. Electricity prices in my state of Australia went up 20% in the last year frown.gif

Don't bother.

Power savings are very minimal. It only makes a difference with battery powered devices.

If you actually care about your power bill then turn your computer off when you're not using it.
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Originally Posted by Pheesh View Post

Don't people that get bad products generally leave bad product reviews?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

So this "insanely high number of returns for being faulty" has resulted in....zero < 4 star reviews. Your friend sounds legit.

i don't know. i think i made it clear he's not in a position to "Be in the know", only in the position to hear it through the in house rumor mill. Being it's a 2nd hand rumor, and i don't know the source, i wouldn't have posted it without some independent verification. Then there was that article out of the UK which seems to back up or atleast mesh with the rumor i heard from my friend a few days ago.

That's why i asked the question here... if anyone else had this experience or heard similar things.

As to the comment section, look at the i5-4670k comments. It's pulling a 4 star average atm (the only intel chip on newegg without a 5 star rating that i can see), and the general word is "can't overclock past 4.2"... people saying that are on water and still giving 5 stars... so i'd take the rankings with a grain of salt. I suspect the people who've returned their chip are waiting on the new one before posting a review...

or perhaps this rumor is just that... a rumor. Or perhaps it's true... that without delidding, these new haswell are capped at very low numbers... and require very robust cooling solutions to reach them.
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So... i would like to upgrade some time in the next year. I'm definitely waiting to see what IB-E looks like before making any decisions. First time in a while that the newest mainstream chip is not an obvious answer.
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Even a stock Core i5 is fine for anyone with a single GPU.
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I'll probably upgrade to haswell from sandy bridge. Electricity prices in my state of Australia went up 20% in the last year frown.gif

Don't do it...
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yep you wont save in long run nothing

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