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Any evidence to back up those claims?
Well, yeah. Just pop on Steam and have a look at the number of games without a penguin next to them.
I've lost count of the number of times I thought a game looked good then realised it wasn't available for Linux.
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Firstly, Valve has been porting their OWN games. Other companies have been slowly stepping up to the plate.
Pity they still haven't ported some of their block buster titles yet - like Portal 2. frown.gif
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Secondly, the MAJORITY of games that have DirectX 9 options available work flawlessly, or close to in Linux, and some of the DX10 only games work as well.
Nobody is disputing the performance of the games. Just the number of titles available.

That all said, I am still impressed with gaming on Linux though. Particularly with Steam. It was such a unexpectedly smooth process and there are still a reasonable number of titles available for Linux.
post #12 of 19
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Well, yeah. Just pop on Steam and have a look at the number of games without a penguin next to them.
I've lost count of the number of times I thought a game looked good then realised it wasn't available for Linux.

That's why I stay in the Linux section... so I don't get my hopes up for a game just to notice it's not got a Linux version. lol
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Pity they still haven't ported some of their block buster titles yet - like Portal 2. frown.gif

It's in the works though tongue.gif
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Nobody is disputing the performance of the games. Just the number of titles available.

That all said, I am still impressed with gaming on Linux though. Particularly with Steam. It was such a unexpectedly smooth process and there are still a reasonable number of titles available for Linux.

It has been amazingly smooth.

As for a nice list; http://steamdb.info/linux/

312 apps total, 194 games, 140 confirmed to be working

I'd say that's pretty nice. It'll only be a little more time for them all to be working....


Also have to give a hand to Humble as they've helped with the Linux games lately too tongue.gif
post #13 of 19
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That's why I stay in the Linux section... so I don't get my hopes up for a game just to notice it's not got a Linux version. lol
Steam is crap for navigation though. So I often find myself browsing Windows games by accident because is stupidly dared to use the search function (etc).
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As for a nice list; http://steamdb.info/linux/

312 apps total, 194 games, 140 confirmed to be working

I'd say that's pretty nice. It'll only be a little more time for them all to be working....
Most of the Linux games I've seen on Steam have been crap though. I mean, the Valve titles are good. But the others have either been pretty rubbish indie games or more than I'm willing to spend on a game without first trying a demo.

Although, a little bit of my problem might be my age. I struggle to get excited about games like I used to pack in my teen. The last time I truly got excited about a game was for Shenmue on the Dreamcast. Even now, i still get goosebumps thinking about that console, but modern games just don't excite me frown.gif
post #14 of 19
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Steam is crap for navigation though. So I often find myself browsing Windows games by accident because is stupidly dared to use the search function (etc).

That's why I just use the big "Linux" button tongue.gif
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Most of the Linux games I've seen on Steam have been crap though. I mean, the Valve titles are good. But the others have either been pretty rubbish indie games or more than I'm willing to spend on a game without first trying a demo.

Although, a little bit of my problem might be my age. I struggle to get excited about games like I used to pack in my teen. The last time I truly got excited about a game was for Shenmue on the Dreamcast. Even now, i still get goosebumps thinking about that console, but modern games just don't excite me frown.gif

Yeah, it is pretty much just Valve/Source Engine and Indie games right now but a lot of pretty big publishers and devs have already announced newer AAA titles for Linux, so one can only hope tongue.gif

I honestly don't like many modern games... Valve games are pretty fun ( half life, portal ) but I still enjoy my NES games more than most modern games, lol. Although, my type of games seem to be pretty rare any ways. I like stuff like the Myst series, puzzle games or games that make you think and remember and write stuff down or be screwed later on in the game. Not really much into shooters. Always been a fan of Final Fantasy until recently since the newer games have gone from hundreds of hours worth play and replay down to the average 9 hour game... : / And with most modern games not taking more than 6-9 hours on average, I just don't see them being worth $60.

Also love me some tower defense games, they hold a special place in my heart.
post #15 of 19
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That's why I just use the big "Linux" button tongue.gif
Yeah, but it's a bloody nightmare going through that. You can be scrolling through games for half an hour then click the wrong thing and have to start all over again. It's a horrible interface.
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Yeah, it is pretty much just Valve/Source Engine and Indie games right now but a lot of pretty big publishers and devs have already announced newer AAA titles for Linux, so one can only hope tongue.gif

I honestly don't like many modern games... Valve games are pretty fun ( half life, portal ) but I still enjoy my NES games more than most modern games, lol. Although, my type of games seem to be pretty rare any ways. I like stuff like the Myst series, puzzle games or games that make you think and remember and write stuff down or be screwed later on in the game. Not really much into shooters. Always been a fan of Final Fantasy until recently since the newer games have gone from hundreds of hours worth play and replay down to the average 9 hour game... : / And with most modern games not taking more than 6-9 hours on average, I just don't see them being worth $60.

Also love me some tower defense games, they hold a special place in my heart.
I used to love the Myst series. I was always more of a Fantasy Star guy rather than Final Fantasy. It probably shows from that (and the Dreamcast comment earlier) that I was more of a Sega guy than Nintendo. Though that's not to say that there weren't some awesome titles on Nintendo consoles as well. I could waste months of my life on Zelda (whichever the Gameboy Original version was) alone. Never mind Super Mario Brothers 2 and Tetris. I keep meaning to buy a copy of Zelda for the Wii actually....
post #16 of 19
Steam search doesn't help. You have to search or filter "Linux" and that avoids the windows stuff. But another problem with Valve is they're not even updating their own pages to list Linux sys reqs for most of their own games so no one is being told..."Hey, this game is available for Linux too". Honestly, I think Valve is turning into Carmack right now. They made this big show and then it's been all kind of half a$5ed. I don't want to sound harsh but their ports are that whole half ported thing so they use an extra layer to translate the DX sys calls IIRC. So I guess that could explain the reason the performance hasn't been as good as consistent. TF2 continues to have problems yet L4D2 actually seems pretty good minus no x16 AA and a few odd glitches that are as common as they are in the Windows version. HL2 however has me excited as I might finally finish the game. Need to find time to play Portal again.
     
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Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
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post #17 of 19
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Steam search doesn't help. You have to search or filter "Linux" and that avoids the windows stuff. But another problem with Valve is they're not even updating their own pages to list Linux sys reqs for most of their own games so no one is being told..."Hey, this game is available for Linux too". Honestly, I think Valve is turning into Carmack right now. They made this big show and then it's been all kind of half a$5ed. I don't want to sound harsh but their ports are that whole half ported thing so they use an extra layer to translate the DX sys calls IIRC. So I guess that could explain the reason the performance hasn't been as good as consistent. TF2 continues to have problems yet L4D2 actually seems pretty good minus no x16 AA and a few odd glitches that are as common as they are in the Windows version. HL2 however has me excited as I might finally finish the game. Need to find time to play Portal again.

Er, all the games that are out for Linux are saying so. If they have a Linux beta option ( closed, not open ) it won't show until it's fully ready in most cases, or without the password to the beta, unless they prematurely mark it as Linux ready. As for non Valve games, that's up to the publisher ( or whoever they have in charge of keeping their Steam profiles up-to-date ) to mark as Linux compatible, if they don't then that's not Steams fault.

And no, Steam is not pulling a Carmack. They made a big show and are continuing the push. They still help out with graphics drivers, have gotten other publishers / developers interested and on board with Linux. Carmack, on the other hand didn't do squat. He brought his few games to Linux and hoped to make a quick buck without recognizing and trying to fix the underlying issues, then when it didn't go his way he cried about how bad Linux is.
post #18 of 19
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I think I'm going to with XP, or Win7 if my mate can find his unused box.

Might try installing Linux on one of the HDD's just to... check it out smile.gif
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