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I'm looking to build a super small form factor htpc. I was going to go with an e350 motherboard combo, but with Kabini coming up, I was thinking I should wait.

I've been searching for some info on when to expect it, but not having a lot of luck. Mainly, I'm hoping for one of the motherboard/cpu combos.

If it isn't expected soon, I might just go with the a4-4000. I wanted something with lower power draw, though, as I was only planning on using a 60w pico psu.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Kabini might not ever be a retail part. As far as I know it doesn't use FM2. It'll be found in Windows tablets and low end laptops. It might turn up in pre-assembled desktop ultra low budget mini PC but I wouldn't count on it.

I saw in a deals site a Lenovo IdeaCentre Q190 for $250 (using discount code USPQ500530) with a Celeron that could be used as HTPC sans cable card.
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=714E1CE6CB3E6B9AE0640BA4246C8A1D
Edited by Castaa - 6/1/13 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by Castaa View Post

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Kabini might not ever be a retail part.

Kabini for desktops will come in the same packages as the E350. BGA soldered on mITX boards.

ETA is supposed to be later this year, perhaps in line with Kaveri...?

Why don't you get an A4-4400 with a mITX board? You can get ASRock's FM2A85X-ITX and undervolt it to fit on a 40W power envelope.

If I can fit an A10-5700 and a screen on a 90W budget, fitting a part that is essentially half an A10-5700 on a 60W envelope should be a piece of cake.
   
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Kabini for desktops will come in the same packages as the E350. BGA soldered on mITX boards.

ETA is supposed to be later this year, perhaps in line with Kaveri...?

Why don't you get an A4-4400 with a mITX board? You can get ASRock's FM2A85X-ITX and undervolt it to fit on a 40W power envelope.

If I can fit an A10-5700 and a screen on a 90W budget, fitting a part that is essentially half an A10-5700 on a 60W envelope should be a piece of cake.

Because that is a relatively expensive board compared to the soldered chip boards. I was hoping for a low cost/low power solution. I also want to run a low profile aftermarket cooler, and fm2 ITX boards don't seem to allow aftermarket coolers due to backplates not fitting.
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Originally Posted by Droogie View Post

Because that is a relatively expensive board compared to the soldered chip boards. I was hoping for a low cost/low power solution. I also want to run a low profile aftermarket cooler, and fm2 ITX boards don't seem to allow aftermarket coolers due to backplates not fitting.

If you can fit a slim mITX (5cm longer than a regular mITX board, same width), the Gigabyte F2A75M-HD2 is under 70 bucks, fits an aftermarket low profile cooler like the NH-L9a, and I have a custom BIOS that allows undervoltage.
   
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If you can fit a slim mITX (5cm longer than a regular mITX board, same width), the Gigabyte F2A75M-HD2 is under 70 bucks, fits an aftermarket low profile cooler like the NH-L9a, and I have a custom BIOS that allows undervoltage.

I'm either going with a Habey or an m350 for a case. Regular ITX is a must. I wanted to play around with an apu, but the limited ventilation in these cases means I want an aftermarket heatsink. It is something I want to do relatively soon, too.

I may go with an Antec ISK 110 Vesa, which has a 90w psu. That would probably make the Richland a4 doable. Doesn't solve the heatsink issue, though. I'm not sure if the stock cooler will even fit, and noise is going to be an issue.

Nobody sells that board, anyway. Can't find it at any retailer. There's on on ebay for $100.
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I may go with an Antec ISK 110 Vesa, which has a 90w psu. That would probably make the Richland a4 doable. Doesn't solve the heatsink issue, though. I'm not sure if the stock cooler will even fit, and noise is going to be an issue.

Nobody sells that board, anyway. Can't find it at any retailer. There's on on ebay for $100.

I see. If ITX is a must, then you have limited options, the most viable being MSI's board, the FM2-A75IA-E53. Doesn't allow voltage control, but it is not very expensive, and it's stable like a rock.

A Noctua NH-L9a fits nicely on the MSI. And even if it didn't, it's as easy as adding some nylon washers. smile.gif

And you're right, my board is impossible to find in the States!! Weird, because it's available in every single Spanish retailer redface.gif
   
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Voltage control isn't important. It's an htpc smile.gif
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Voltage control isn't important. It's an htpc smile.gif

I guess, but Trinity chips can be undervolted a very nice chunk usually. For example my A10-5700 is currently running at 1.12V, 0.105V below stock. Rock solid.
   
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“We are working with partners on Kabini[-based] [4”x4”] design,” said Peter Amos, a public relations manager at AMD, during a conference call. No exact details were given regarding the NUC-like AMD-based systems, but AMD should disclose more in the upcoming week at Computex Taipei trade-show.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20130602142120_AMD_Develops_NUC_Like_Systems_with_Partners.html
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