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Doubling up of the front-end alone will yield ~20% increase in performance; it's been demonstrated by disabling one integer core in each module on current FX chips. Combine that with the vastly improved cache, reduced branch mispredictions, doubling of ALU and AGU count, 256-bit FMACs, etc... we're looking at some serious performance improvements.

If they deliver ,4 module chips will be trading blows with quad i7s across the board and sadly their price will be around there,a bit lower I suppose.I can see AMD eventually phasing out FX-4XX0 processors in favor of their APU brethren. Perhaps FX-6xx0 too, If they manage to get 3 module APU and 5 module FX products.
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It's confirmed that SR will not be needing a new board.

True. At the same time, I will be disappointed if they do not release a new Mobo chipset to go along with this.
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AMD Steamroller (3rd gen Bulldozer) silicon shot ?
If this is Steamroller AMD did a lot of work on it since Hot Chips (August 2012). Could find out more in November (APU13).
Delaying Kaveri AMD could have included some of the planed upgrades from Excavator on SR.

SR is going to be 28nm using High Density Cell Library to archieve 30% area and power reductions.
Size difference between a 32nm Piledrive module vs 28nm Steamroller could close.

AMD Explains Advantages of High Density (Thin) Libraries @THW

I'm really looking forward to this chip but I just wanted to mention, High Density Library is scheduled for Excavator. I know this die shot is more like Steamroller 2.0 but I don't believe it has High Density Library implemented. The two major features of Excavator is High Density Library and updating the memory system which will force a new cpu socket. It works out well though since it aligns with DDR4.

Also high density library would leave more room on the die for more modules wouldn't it?
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I might, just *might* go for an SR, though I already have a PD.
...Or another GPU?
Aaah, IDK anymore! I guess I'll see when/if the frametime fix comes along for CF.
    
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According to this AMD rep, Kaveri is scheduled for next year.

At what time in the video does he say that? This roadmap from CES disagrees:


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If they deliver ,4 module chips will be trading blows with quad i7s across the board and sadly their price will be around there,a bit lower I suppose.I can see AMD eventually phasing out FX-4XX0 processors in favor of their APU brethren. Perhaps FX-6xx0 too, If they manage to get 3 module APU and 5 module FX products.

If they deliver, the 4M chips will certainly position themselves comfortably between the i7 quads and hex-cores in multithreaded while nearing SB in single-thread on average (at stock clocks that is, not at the same clocks). The 4M chips could even trade a couple blows with the hex-cores the way the 8350 does with the 3770k, whether or not that's feasible depends on whether AMD was talking 30% ops per cycle on each thread or 30% ops per cycle in total (since at this point it's unclear if those gains are influenced by the increased multithreaded scaling made possible by the doubled-up front end -- BD and PD only scale around 650% when going from single-threaded to eight-threaded, whereas with the new front end they should be able to scale 750-800%).
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It's possible, if you think about it Richland for notebooks was launched in March 2013, Richland for desktops is launching in June 2013. 3 months later than its notebook counterpart. Perhaps Kaveri will be launching for notebooks at the end of 2013 and desktops early 2014. Followed shortly by FX chips.
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It's possible, if you think about it Richland for notebooks was launched in March 2013, Richland for desktops is launching in June 2013. 3 months later than its notebook counterpart. Perhaps Kaveri will be launching for notebooks at the end of 2013 and desktops early 2014. Followed shortly by FX chips.

Or they could pull the same stupid crap they did with Trinity, having OEMs sell machines with the new APUs in May and not releasing them to retail channels until October rolleyes.gif
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True. At the same time, I will be disappointed if they do not release a new Mobo chipset to go along with this.

They will. They're going to need one so they can implement PCI-e 3.0. It doesn't matter now, but it's going to with multi-GPU configurations on next-generation GPU's. I can't believe that AMD would make high-end GPU's and then more or less tell their customers that if they want to use them in Crossfire, they'll have to buy Intel to make full use of them.
     
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I've read about this before, but I can't find the source! Do you know where I can read more about this? I mean with the demonstation of disabling one integer core in each module of FX-chipsets.

http://atenra.blog.com/2012/02/01/amd%E2%80%99s-bulldozer-cmt-scaling/

Average 17% improvement with 4M/4C vs 2M/4C.
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Usario, you never cease to amaze me, great find and excellent research, i always enjoy your post thumb.gif
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