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Just for background, I have 2x EVGA GTX 680 SC's running, do lots of gaming (not a whole lot of FPSs, but do play them casually occasionally) and usually use a second monitor for movie watching/web browsing. So, with this configuration, is it worth even considering 1600p? Taking into consideration the super cheap 27" 1440p Korean PLS displays, some of which can overclock to near 120Hz, should I even bother looking at 1600p? As far as I know, they don't even have a Korean 1600p PLS screen available. Also, running at 1600p, when running at max settings, chances are I wouldn't be hitting much over 60FPS anyway, so I wouldn't get much of an advantage of 120HZ I don't think, whereas running 1440p with two powerful cards I should be able to get well over 60FPS and see a noticeable difference on screen if I OC the monitor to 120HZ.


TLDR: Is running a Korean monitor at 1440p PLS display at max graphic settings and OCing to 120Hz my best option, or should I go for broke and look at 30" IPS 1600p monitors, even though I won't get 120Hz, and probably not even 60FPS when running games at max settings?

Thanks in advance!
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I'd say get the 1440P, only cause its a lot cheaper. Recommend getting it from a reputable place as well. I jumped the gun on my 1600P because I didn't want to risk getting a monitor shipped from Korea. Taking into account DOA and potential shipping damage I opted for a dell. The 30 inch is huge though, and I do love my monitor, but there is a huge price premium for it. I game a lot, so for me i figured it was a sound investment. smile.gif
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I'd go 1440p definitely.

60Hz gaming is just not very nice...and since you have 2 680's, damn. 1440p @ 120Hz will be glorious for you.

My write up + the links you will need for the Korean monitor (Qnix QX2710):
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Originally Posted by Remmib 
27" 2560x1440 120Hz PLS for $317

How you may ask? Qnix QX2710 or Qnix QX2710 (Pixel Perfect for $385)


It's a PLS panel (which some say is just Samsung's version of IPS), though the pixels are different from IPS monitors. Some also think PLS has better colors than IPS.

From what I've seen most people easily hit 110Hz, if not 120Hz, as long as you don't have a garbage graphics card.

The bezel is of reasonable size, too bad it's glossy though, I'll be painting mine matte black. Also the anti-glare coating on the monitor is quite light and doesn't degrade the picture quality. Sooo much better than glossy if you ask me, and many others will agree.

Mine came with 1 dead pixel and 1 stuck pixel (likely the stuck pixel can be fixed), I ain't even mad though...the pixels are so god damn small it's quite hard to notice it. I don't have any backlight bleed on mine, some people have experienced bleed, but there is an easy fix.

The downside of the monitor is that the casing is cheap, which ain't that big of a deal to me. Although it is kind of annoying that you have to remove the back panel to take off the stem of the mount (if you want to put this monitor on a monitor stand with arms).

All in all, I'm really happy with mine. Definitely recommend it if you're in the market for basically the best bang for the buck/performance monitor you can buy right now. Also, the shipping from South Korea is so stupidly fast...48 hours, how is that possible? If you're worried about a warranty or it dying you can get a warranty from Square Trade for $50 for 3 year coverage.

Feel free to read user's opinions in the huge Overclock.net threads:
- Original Thread
- Overclock Results
- Monitor Club w/ Optimization Guides

TL;DR
Pros:
-27"
-1440p
-overclockable to 120Hz
-amazing colors
-cheap

Cons:
-cheap casing
-possible backlight bleed (though you can fix on your own)
-cheap monitor stand
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What kind of hardware are you running? What kind of framerates do you get @1600p with high settings?
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You can click my rig, but it depends on the game. I actually play most games @ 30 fps or lower. I just tried it one day, and couldnt tell the difference. I max out (no bloom) Crysis 3, and I can get it to 30 fps. Bioshock Infinite i get 60+ easy. To get 60 on C3, I would have to lower some of the settings though.

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Alright, thanks for getting back to me guys. Just from what you said, the increased framerate and refresh rate I will get from the Korean 1440p will outweigh the awesomeness of 1600p. Not to mention cost will be much lower.

Price isn't the end of the world, so I was willing to invest $1000+ in a nice 30" IPS 1600p monitor, but if 120Hz really is that good, and the decreased framerates I'm going to have because of the high resolution, then I'm not sure it's worth it.

Probably just going to go with the Korean monitor for now then. Should be a really big upgrade over my 24" Samsung 1080p monitor at only 60Hz at any rate.

Thanks again!
post #7 of 26
Well, I did a LOT of research myself and decided to buy 1600p instead. So its personal preference really.
Maybe you will reconsider after seing those links about Crossover 3020MDP

642$, Free shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-3020MDP-30Inch-S-IPS-Monitor-2560x1600-High-Resolutio-n-Monitor-WQHD-/151028545767?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item232a00b8e7

Product: CROSSOVER 3020MDP
Panel Type: LG DISPLAY S-IPS WQHD
Screen Size: 30 inch
Pixel Size: 0.2505 mm x 0.2505 mm
Resolution: 2560x1600 @60Hz
Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Display Colors: 8bit-16.7 M Colors, 10bit-1.07 Billion colors
Brightness: 370 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 1,000 : 1, DCR 1,000,000 : 1
Response Time: 6ms(gtg)
Speaker: 14W (Stereo, 7W + 7W)
Viewing Angle: 178°/178°
Horizontality Frequency: 30 ~ 81 kHz
Verticality Frequency: 56 ~ 75 Hz
In Put Port: DISPLAY PORT, HDMI 1, HDMI 2, DVI-DUAL, RGB, COMPONENT, PC AUDIO IN
Out Put Port: PC AUDIO OUT, SPDIF
Power Supply: Adapter AC 220V, 95 W, 1 W(Stand by)
Plug Type : C
Power Management: VESA DPMS
Dimensions: 700(W) X 440(H) X 500(D)mm
Weight: 14 kg
Plug & Play: VESA DDC 1/2B
Wall Standards: 100X100 VESA Wall Mount


It uses LG LM300WQ5-SDA1 panel with 6ms G2G, 10bit colors. CCFL

Same panels are used in Dell, HAzro, NEC 30" IPS monitors.

Russian review, but google translator helps out:

http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/53437/30-djujmovyj_privet_iz_Korei._Obzor_i_testirovanie_monitora_Crossover_3020MDP.html


It can overclock to 80+Hz as stated in this user review:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1039410581


Anyway, i pulled the trigger from ebay seller i linked above. Should be getting this monster in 2-3 weeks time.
I will give feedback after few days of using.

Currently im at 3x HP ZR24W monitors wich have served my really well for over two years. I will probably keep 2 of them and sell one after i get 3020MDP.

GL with your buy.
Edited by Supranium - 6/2/13 at 10:42am
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Well, I did a LOT of research myself and decided to buy 1600p instead.

I look forward to seeing your review.
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Perhaps i need to explain a little why i decided to get 30" 1600p instead of 1440p 27" monitor or going for eyefinity solutions with smaller monitors.

So for 1600p pro´s:

+ I have 2x 24" 1920x1200 monitors in pivot mode on left side of my desk. 30" on landcape just fits in better than 27".
+ I do some 3D model creaton as a hobby. Every extra pixel counts as a plus.
+ bigger is better for me, since i like to see more on my main monitor.
+ i do not use surround or eyefinity. Im casual gamer who doesnt play much FPS games. I utterly dislike wide bezels between monitors. This 3020MDP has nice small bezel. Aboutt the same as my ZR24W´s have.
+ de-bezeled 120hz 2ms monitors in surround are not an option for me, since there is none above 1080p. I can not use 1080p since my work requires at minimum 1920x1200. Im not a big fan of multi monitor gaming because the reason i mentioned above. I just cant stand bezel bars.

cons:

- Not as good motion clarity as 2ms 120hz monitors. For gaming.
- I have to pay way higher price for single big monitor vs surround/eyefinity solutions.

for me its simple. pro´s > cons.
Edited by Supranium - 6/2/13 at 12:53pm
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Excellent choice!

I personally have no strong opinion regarding the whole 16x9 vs 16x10 debate, but I do think that the whole "120hz or its worthless" attitude is a bit ridiculous. Like you said, you can not get more than 30-60fps, so why spend the money on a 120hz panel? The fact is that unless you are playing old games or like playing with everything cranked down for some reason, almost no one is going to get 120fps @ 1440p with current generation games (although I don't have much experience with the Titan, I do know that it takes me 3x 670FTW OC'd to 1438core and 7388 memory or 3x 7970 Lightnings @ 1320core and 6760mem to get 100+ FPS in games like BL2 and Crysis 2).

I applaud you for realistically figuring your needs and buying a monitor that is appropriate to them.
   
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