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Need a new mouse - Microsoft IO 1.1a ?

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Okay, first of all, I just want to admit that I'm pretty much a noob in the peripherals section, but I've tried to do some research.

So I've had this generic Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse for about a decade, and have recently had it stolen from the lab.

While I can't say that the mouse itself was very trustworthy(it frequently sent me into spins suring FPS games), It's time to finally buy something new, and I'm looking for a similar experience.

I play quite a few FPS's(COD4/BF/etc.) and intend to use this mouse for other basic tasks such as browsing and programming.

I value the following things:
- Cost-Effectiveness (I'm a new high-school graduate on a budget)
- Tracking
- Ergonomics
- 5 Buttons or more

I believe the previous mouse I owned ran at 400dpi and essentially weighed nothing.
I typically play near the lowest sensitivity settings as well.
I had the opportunity to try out a friend's DA 3.5G, and the 900dpi felt a little strange, but I can't say I couldn't get used to the shape and speed.
It's just a bit too flashy for me, and it would be a little large to carry around. (I'm very mobile and game on my laptop)
I'm pretty sure I prefer to claw the mouse. One thing I did notice was that my pinky occasionally felt uncomfortable with the Basic Optical Mouse.


I was looking at perhaps buying an old Intellimouse Optical 1.1a and have a bunch of questions about them.
From my understanding, in addition to being quite a bit cheaper than the IE 3.0, it's quite a bit smaller as well which makes it more suitable for my grip type.
I'm open to input on this.

Another concern of mine is legitimacy. I think I've narrowed it down to avoiding anything new, well painted and branded, and from HK, but I could definitely use some pointers in this department.
I know not to buy unless the MS sticker is clearly visible in one of the photographs.

Would the IO 1.1a be a good choice for me?
I've found what looks to be a legitimate source with good feedback selling a large lot of them for $15+fs.
Should I buy new feet?
A mat? (I play on a smooth white wood surface)
How are the switches on this mouse? (I want to click fast and I want them to last)

Additionally I was wondering if any 1.1a owners could tell me if it's difficult to press the righthand side button while playing.
Does the position essentially make this a four button mouse?


I'm open to any other suggestions.
I suppose my ideal mouse would be something along the lines of a 400dpi kinzuadder 3G falling under $35.
I can spend a little more, and am curious about other mice as well, such as the Spawn, Xornet, and G400.

I greatly appreciate any input and thank you for making it through this much of my post.
Hopefully, you guys can help me come to a conclusion quickly. As of now, the lack of a USB mouse prevents me from progressing with XCode.
post #2 of 18
i don't really see the point of buying such an old piece of technology regardless of how legendary its status. i would recommend going with something much more up to date, if you like the 1.1a shape maybe try an ec2 evo by zowie or a death adder.

i own a cm spawn xornet, its really nice for the price but you would be better off getting a spawn or something with a similar sensor.
post #3 of 18
intelli 1.1 is pretty much of the same size than a deathadder. its overall build quality is really mediocre..the mousewheel and the right side mousebutton are riddiculously bad.
its biggest standout is the sensor performance, really.
post #4 of 18
Don't get hyped for old technologies that were used back in the day when Quake/CS were the most popular game around... the fact is the pro players got used to that equipment and it suited their older setup so it really makes zero sense trying to buy something as outdated as the IO 1.1a. The only reason why these mice have received the hype they have is because many pro players have used the 1.1 mice to win tournaments but also back in the day they were indeed the best tracking mice available. I still prefer my WMO to the G400 say but it is unusable for any games outside CS/Quake.

Soon I bet people will start asking about CRT monitors... technology has moved on.
Edited by Mancubus - 6/2/13 at 9:01am
post #5 of 18
the sensor is still top notch though. in a new shell with actually USEFUL sidebuttons and a decent scroll wheel it would be still great
post #6 of 18
No it wouldn't... 400 DPI is simply nowhere near enough for modern games... I can't imagine playing SC II on anything less than 800 DPI and ideally you want 1800 DPI at least to play SC II comfortably. The old Microsoft mice are obsolete and out of production for a reason. Buy something else.
post #7 of 18
its enough for fps games. you can just increase sens to something around 3-4.
dont assume everyone plays rts with it.

ofc in general 1000-2000 dpi is more comfortable if youi dont want to increase win sens.
post #8 of 18
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No it wouldn't... 400 DPI is simply nowhere near enough for modern games... I can't imagine playing SC II on anything less than 800 DPI and ideally you want 1800 DPI at least to play SC II comfortably. The old Microsoft mice are obsolete and out of production for a reason. Buy something else.

OP said he is playing FPS on low sens. 400 dpi is sufficient for that. For desktop as well.

I still wouldn't take a WMO or Intelli, but not because of the dpi limitations. Also: the newer mice don't really have newer tech, it's basically the same since the dawn of optical mice...
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post #9 of 18
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No it wouldn't... 400 DPI is simply nowhere near enough for modern games... I can't imagine playing SC II on anything less than 800 DPI and ideally you want 1800 DPI at least to play SC II comfortably. The old Microsoft mice are obsolete and out of production for a reason. Buy something else.

You're overstating the issue. Assuming you play SC2 at a screen resolution of 2000x1200 (rounded up from 1920x1080) and you want a one-to-one translation of mickys to pixel, then you'd have to move a WMO (or similar mouse) five inches (12.7 cm) to get from the left to the right edge of the screen and three inches (7.62 cm) to get from the top to the bottom edge of the screen. When you use software scaling to make the cursor yet faster, you lose the ability to make pixel exact clicks, but if you're playing SC2 at a high level (which I assume you're trying) then you won't be able to aim that exactly anyway, with doing 300+ actions per minute and all. Come to speak of it, SC2 and similar games don't even require pixel exact clicking the way first person shooters do. Now of course having a mouse with more CPI is better than having one with only 400, but a WMO's weight, shape, good tracking, lack of prediction and absence of positive acceleration may well be the deciding factors for a player's choice of mouse. These mice aren't obsolete yet. They won't be until a mouse hits the market which actually beats them at everything. We're still waiting for that to happen.
post #10 of 18
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The old Microsoft mice are obsolete and out of production for a reason. Buy something else.
I'm also of the opinion that those mice are in no way outdated. 400dpi is plenty for most games, and enough for desktop work up to 1920x1080.
Also, the reason those mice are out of production is that MS wants you to buy new crap every other month, and the WMO and IO were quite expensive to produce. With only gamers willing to pay more than 10 bucks for a mouse, the reason is quite obvious- but it's not that IO/WMO are obsolete from a technical pov. In fact I overhauled mine three days ago.
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