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what kind of boards are we goign to see? is it going to be better then ivy? hard to imagine something runing hotter being better for sff
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Recent images show that even though HW needs lower voltage for overclocks, it will run hotter than Ivy.

Expect the same kind of lineup, ASUS, Gigabyte ASROCK MSI, their all still making motherboards, and as far as I know, ASUS/MSI and Gigabyte are using the same ranking system for the names.

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go look on newegg everything just went up for sale
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go look on newegg everything just went up for sale

Yup. ASRock ITX boards are all available. Interesting one is the B85 chipset one, which is identical to the H87 except two fewer USB 3.0 ports and presumably no Intel RST, but for an affordable $85.

Z87 chipset ITX board cost a bit more than the old Z77, at $165. It does, however, use an Intel LAN chip. thumb.gif

On all ASRock boards, CPU socket is far away from the PCIe slot and all SATA ports are 6Gb/s.
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i am kinda torn, waiting to see how haswell does so i can make an informed decision, theres a art of me saying just buy an ivy when it hits the classifieds.

the big thing here is i am shrinking down from an 800d build to itx, i just am not sure if haswell or ivy would be the better purchase at this point. the heat seems like it wouldd cause the sff crew to want to stay away
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i am kinda torn, waiting to see how haswell does so i can make an informed decision, theres a art of me saying just buy an ivy when it hits the classifieds.

the big thing here is i am shrinking down from an 800d build to itx, i just am not sure if haswell or ivy would be the better purchase at this point. the heat seems like it wouldd cause the sff crew to want to stay away
I think haswell for itx would kick-off, at least the ASROCK Z87E-ITX. Now that it has msata3.
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ooo msata3 would allow you to do a pretty sick uSFF build, in something like a Antec ISK-110 VESA.

Although it doesn't look like the IGP will be able to compete with the AMD APU side of things.

Could move up to a Antec ISK 300 case and get a LP single slot GPU to account for the poor IGP.
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Yeah, I am looking at a gaminbg build, haswell itself just doesnt justify the upgrade to me, but i dont know of any new features with boards yet
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So I was a bit torn between the Ivy Bridge and Haswell but ended up jumping for the 4770K because my local Micro Center had it on sale along with the ASRock Z87E-ITX board. I figure that since the price is a bit cheaper than Ivy Bridge at the moment, it'll last me longer...I'll have to get back to you on that one though smile.gif
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just something people might want to watch about haswell it is pretty telling and trust me most of it is dead on true https://teksyndicate.com/videos/haswell-what-you-need-know the haswell I7 4770k does run hot very hot i have to say it runs nearly as hot as my 8350 overclocked to 4.8ghz x8 especialy when you get to around 4.2-4.4ghz+ the thing acts like a nuclear reactor i know i happen to have one here i have been testing for past week the reason being part of the VRM is on the main CPU chip which adds alot of heat especialy when you go to messing with voltage it almost doubles temps when just adding minor voltage increases so badly the thing scares me to be honest.

I also want to point out it often will downclock before you can even see it because temperature gets to close to threshhold so it will give false positives about successfull stable overclocks basicaly i cant seem to get above 4.6ghz on custom liquid cooling using XSPC full copper raystorm waterblock and arctic cooling mx4 thermal paste applied with half pea method to elimiate aplication error have tried 10 times or more to figure out issue it is downclocking even then when i do benching yet you cannot tell this because it does so so fast and without actualy showwing signs of this it will just slowdown vs crash like they used to.
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