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Poll Results: Which is better for future gaming?

Poll expired: Jun 10, 2013  
  • 77% (94)
    i7 4770K
  • 22% (27)
    FX 8350
121 Total Votes  
post #61 of 125
For gaming only? 4670K gets my money
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Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

amount of cores does not matter when all cores are utilized.

Well there are generally diminishing returns using more than a certain number of cores in all but the most parallel tasks, even if you can load them all.

Still, for the sake of this argument, looking at aggregate performance of the CPU as a whole does make sense.
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Originally Posted by Fulvin View Post

AMD is not true 8 core, so yes, Intel takes the cake here.

I disagree, but it's totally irrelevant anyway.

Eight Vishera cores are faster than sixteen Atom Bonnell cores, often by a wide margin, even though the latter probably fits your definition of true core better.

Vishera cores are simply weak in IPC relative to AMDs own Phenom II and nearly all Intel architectures since Core 2. They also cannot clock that much higher than Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell.
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Originally Posted by Bbrad View Post

using all of its cores at 100% won't beat it? That seems a little fanboy. I mean yea 6 core amd vs 4 core Intel well Intel's still gonna kick ass and take names but using all 8 cores? Amd is gonna kick Intel's ass into the next dimension in multi threading.

Have you looked at real world benchmarks that actually are well threaded?

Take the chips, push them all to reasonable 24/7 clocks, and 4c/8t Ivy will win more multithreaded tests than it loses to Vishera, even though Vishera has double the cores. Haswell does even better.

This isn't "fanboy", just fact.
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Originally Posted by Bbrad View Post

amd 8350 4 true cores plus the extra not true 4 cores that was a fail.

All the cores in an FX chip are effectively the same; they all share some resources with the other core in the module. It's not four true plus four extra. It's eight true cores that happened to be bottlenecked in certain workloads by only having four decoders and four complete AVX FPUs.

This architectural shift probably wasn't executed as well as it should have been, and the shared/overly narrow decoders (which will be fixed in steamroller) in have been especially problematic, but without the module approach, AMD would not have been able to fit as many cores, and even if it's individual cores were stronger, overall performance would likely not be as good as it is.
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I'd be buying an either an FX6300/FX8320(on a budget depending on exact size) and overclocking, or the i5-4670K over either of the poll CPU options TBH. smile.gif
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in benchmarks the 4770k get higher points than the 8350 at least for now
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in benchmarks the 4770k get higher points than the 8350 at least for now
what do you mean 'at least for now'...
it's not like there will be a driver release like they do for graphics cards.. LOL
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in benchmarks the 4770k get higher points than the 8350 at least for now
what do you mean 'at least for now'...
it's not like there will be a driver release like they do for graphics cards.. LOL
there has been CPU driver releases and the more games that take use of all of its cores the better its gonna become.

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in benchmarks the 4770k get higher points than the 8350 at least for now
what do you mean 'at least for now'...
it's not like there will be a driver release like they do for graphics cards.. LOL
there has been CPU driver releases and the more games that take use of all of its cores the better its gonna become.

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the AMD scheduling patch for Win 7 doesn't count and didn't show any improvements..
please inform me more of so called CPU driver releases.
post #68 of 125
If a game fully i mean fully uses 8 core 90%+ then FX8350 will probably be a bit faster. In games where ~ 6 core are utilized FX matches a Core i5 3570K.
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the AMD scheduling patch for Win 7 doesn't count and didn't show any improvements..
please inform me more of so called CPU driver releases.

Bold=false

which ever site you got your info from got it wrong

theres quite a few users on here who did benchmarks etc pre and post and the win 7 patches made some decent performance increase

Also ask any fx 8300 owner whether their pc performs better before and after and u will get after
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