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What's the problem with this? The xbox 360 had this also and the original xbox.
THis is perfectly fine, I've been paying for xbox live for 4 years and guess what's never happened to our network?
Oh wait i remember now, the PS3 was down for what 2 months due to being compromised? mmm

At least the PS3 still worked.
    
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Did the title of this thread just change?
So Microsoft are now supporting Second Hand sales also?
Looks like people have no reason to hate now.
Hopefully they explain it at E3, but the way he answered that question... seems suspect.

"We know we have to support second-hand titles, and we will."
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Find it very strange that some people are saying deal with it, it's as if you like being ripped off. I literally don't understand how people can say their 'Ok' with all the extra fees Microsoft charge you. It's like you people have given up and feel they have to accept it .. Maybe those guys just like being ripped off?

I for one will vote with my wallet and not support Microsoft's greed.
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At least the PS3 still worked.

well that begs the question should the impossible occur i.e MS get hacked and live is down, will there be an offline mode or will the whole thing stop? they engineered multiple DRM levels so it would have to be properly setup in the first place to allow for some sort of lengthy update outage say 4hrs ? but what about 4 days
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Find it very strange that some people are saying deal with it, it's as if you like being ripped off. I literally don't understand how people can say their 'Ok' with all the extra fees Microsoft charge you. It's like you people have given up and feel they have to accept it .. Maybe those guys just like being ripped off?

I for one will vote with my wallet and not support Microsoft's greed.

Xbox live is cheap for a entire year it is less then a cost of a single game.
You get more friend centered options with live
I know many people that don't play PC's at all and play 360 nearly every day. They go home hop on the 360 and join a party chat with others while playing his own game or playing with others.
PSN doesn't' have cross game party chat, and is vary limited about being able to jump into someones game.

Not everyone likes second rate experiences.
PS3 is like android 2.3 while 360 is like android 4.1
360 is just a smoother and grander experience. They might let you play the same games, but one is giving you a clunky experience while doing so and the other is not.


Xbox One is getting dedicated servers that alone makes up the the live cost. And another reason why PS4 users will again have a second rate online experience.
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Did the title of this thread just change?
So Microsoft are now supporting Second Hand sales also?
Looks like people have no reason to hate now.

Support for second hand sales does not equal no charge for second hand games. If they require you to pay 53 dollars for a game used that cost 59 dollars new, they are killing the second hand market.

You understand that right?

The only way second hand games work is if they are based on market prices not retail prices.
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Find it very strange that some people are saying deal with it, it's as if you like being ripped off. I literally don't understand how people can say their 'Ok' with all the extra fees Microsoft charge you. It's like you people have given up and feel they have to accept it .. Maybe those guys just like being ripped off?

I for one will vote with my wallet and not support Microsoft's greed.

I already do this.

This is why I bought a PS3, simply because I don't want to pay to be able to play my games online. COD plays exactly the same on the PS3 as it does on the 360...I don't need a fancy GUI or a free subscription to Netflix.

However, that is not the point of this thread. The point of the thread (until the author changed the title for some reason) was that MS will be charging for online services, we know this because it has happened with the previous two generations. People are simply trying to find flaws with things. Yes, ideally it would be free, but people quite clearly don't have a problem paying for this facility with the previous two generations so why would that suddenly change?
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Support for second hand sales does not equal no charge for second hand games. If they require you to pay 53 dollars for a game used that cost 59 dollars new, they are killing the second hand market.

You understand that right?

The only way second hand games work is if they are based on market prices not retail prices.

That is how gamestop or 3rd party used game sellers will work. Force Those corporations to pay more.

If you going to transfer the right to a different account is will probably be somewhere between $5-15 most likely.

MS stated there would be two different methods for used games. We already know that Gamestop and others will lose out on their profit margins, but we have vary little detail about user to user what MS stated has different rules.
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Xbox live is cheap for a entire year it is less then a cost of a single game.
You get more friend centered options with live
I know many people that don't play PC's at all and play 360 nearly every day. They go home hop on the 360 and join a party chat with others while playing his own game or playing with others.
PSN doesn't' have cross game party chat, and is vary limited about being able to jump into someones game.

Not everyone likes second rate experiences.
PS3 is like android 2.3 while 360 is like android 4.1
360 is just a smoother and grander experience. They might let you play the same games, but one is giving you a clunky experience while doing so and the other is not.


Xbox One is getting dedicated servers that alone makes up the the live cost. And another reason why PS4 users will again have a second rate online experience.

Cheap is a relative word, when the competition is free.
Here's the real deal though, neither the XBOX nor the PS can provide a smooth or grand experience, they're both clunky as nimitz carriers. Whatt it comes down to isn't which one of them who has the least annoying system, but which one has the games worth to suffer through interfaces made by drugged up donkeys.

The Xbox might have a controller that you can use as a flail, a integrated cyberpunk oppression machine and Forza, PS has Gran Turismo and whatever crap they've got going for them.

As a whole it's up to the buyer to decide wether e want's to piss away his hard whined parental graces on a american or japanese headache and that choice will be based on what his friends use or some arbitrary constructed hormonal dream.

The main point of my rant isn't to berate anyone but point out in somewhat harsh words that discussion wether texas longhorn or highland cattle farts are the ones to have is a pointless adventure.
 
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Xbox One is getting dedicated servers that alone makes up the the live cost. And another reason why PS4 users will again have a second rate online experience.

dedicated virtual servers, running on the same hardware base as the other servers.

xboxlive is a better experience, so is the update method, so is the installation. However until PS4 arrives and potentially addresses all of those issues you dont know. In fact i cancelled my live renewal and for the first time (If they handle updates, installations, chat, friends well) I will pay for a Playstation online account

after all there is some sort of co-existence with the PC as i can use my PSN ID to log into Steam thumb.gif
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