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not a fan of XBL, it should not be chargable and be included as a free service as part of the console itself.

its like buying a radio and being charged for the music that is aired

PSN is free so i cant see why XBL cant be
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dedicated virtual servers, running on the same hardware base as the other servers.

Virtual servers have the opportunity to be an absolute disaster, just look up Tribes: Ascend's server issues, an absolute CF of horrible latency across most, if not all regions. If the One is using 'em, I say good luck and all that, but honestly can't see this ending in anything but tears.
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Someone edited the thread title, what happened to freedom of speech?

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Have added my original title back and kept whatever jobsworth edited it in also.

Unless this site is Microsoft sponsored I can't see why it got edited?
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That is how gamestop or 3rd party used game sellers will work. Force Those corporations to pay more.

If you going to transfer the right to a different account is will probably be somewhere between $5-15 most likely.

MS stated there would be two different methods for used games. We already know that Gamestop and others will lose out on their profit margins, but we have vary little detail about user to user what MS stated has different rules.

According to a lot of what I have been reading, it can be anywhere from 1 cent to 53 dollars.

Lets do 15 dollars. Microsoft charges 15 dollars, the game company has to turn profit or get out of market, so they charge 20 dollars, and 35 dollars, for a 50 dollar game? Then you have to pay the customer what? 10 dollars? That is 45 dollars for a 50 dollar game. Who wants that mess?


If Microsoft charges 5 dollars, which is extremely unlikely, it will cost more the 5 dollars a game for tech support. Then we have 5 dollars for microsoft, 20 dollars for retail, 10 dollars for customer? That is still 35 dollars for a 50 dollar game.

And that is assuming that everyone is making profit out of it. For me? 10 dollars is not worth the 5 dollars in gas to go to local game store.

The retail store will not want to part with that profit. At some point, the retail store will simply not sell the used game. Which is the WHOLE POINT. Right now, looking online, I see bioshock game for 37.99 used 39.99 new. There is simply not enough room in that margin for microsoft to lay claim to any more profit.

I am assuming that the bioshock was bought from the customer at 25ish dollars.

Sorry, I never own a console, never bought a used game, and never will. But it seems to me, you can not claim you where not destroying something by parking a bulldozer on top of it.
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They've always charged for this service.
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Find it very strange that some people are saying deal with it, it's as if you like being ripped off. I literally don't understand how people can say their 'Ok' with all the extra fees Microsoft charge you. It's like you people have given up and feel they have to accept it .. Maybe those guys just like being ripped off?

I for one will vote with my wallet and not support Microsoft's greed.

I'm not sure how you find it strange for someone to tell you that. "Vote with your wallet", but other people will buy what they want, regardless of the direction Microsoft/Sony takes. I'm not saying that I will buy an Xone or PS4, I most likely wont buy either for a couple years after the initial release. I never even purchased a 360 until about 3 years ago and I just sold it about a month ago. But beating the same horse over and over gets rather tedious and does not change anything, so as I said before, unless you can change it... deal with it.


... and as many have said before. Many of the services being mentioned Microsoft have always charged for their use.
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well that begs the question should the impossible occur i.e MS get hacked and live is down, will there be an offline mode or will the whole thing stop? they engineered multiple DRM levels so it would have to be properly setup in the first place to allow for some sort of lengthy update outage say 4hrs ? but what about 4 days


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OK, I don't get this thread...Xbox Live has been a subscription based service since it was launched with the original Xbox, why would they all of a sudden change that? Does not take much common sense to know that they were still gonna keep gold around as a paid subscription, so for anyone being surprised must have been living under a rock or just wants to stir up more noise. Just another pointless thread for people to complain, if you don't like how a particular company provides their products and services just don't get it.
post #39 of 220
I've never understood why people pay extra money to let their device access the internet. I know Xbox has some extra features like cloud storage, but those should be optional. As in, allow online play for free and charge extra if you want to utilize their cloud services.
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I think the new Xbox looks pretty lame, but is Xbox Live continuing to cost money really news? Did anything honestly think they'd stop charging for it? I mean really...
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What's the problem with this? The xbox 360 had this also and the original xbox.
THis is perfectly fine, I've been paying for xbox live for 4 years and guess what's never happened to our network?
Oh wait i remember now, the PS3 was down for what 2 months due to being compromised? mmm

Two months? It was down like three weeks (you could still play games in those three weeks as well since it was PSN that was down, not the PS3 which you said). Way to exaggerate though.
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