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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

I have a bad feeling about this "IT'S UP TO THE PUBLISHERS" catch.
Also, microsoft technically doesn't block used games, and they technically doesn't require always online, so i would not praise sony without hearing all the details first.

I think sony will just do the same thing, the only difference is that they are shifting the blame to the publishers, "OH THAT'S THE PUBLISHER'S DECISION, NOT OURS"

If it's up to the publishers if they want to block/charge exta for the used games, what makes you think that they would not do it? Same thing for the always online drm.

Think about it, if you are a dev/publisher, which platform would you go? The one that wil give you profits from second hand games? Or from the one that doesn't? Sony will lose titles if they don't copy microsoft.

We will see...,

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Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

You should, it's up to the publisher on PC too.


Yup they went the route of PC... It's not really MS or Sony that is doing this. It's the publishers. We know who the usual suspects are.
 
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I like this, but we will see the true extent to this statement at E3
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This is pretty huge for the PS4, at least if MS doesn't reverse their policy.

Every used game store will basically act as a massive advertisement for the PS4, filled with cheaper PS4 games.
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8 days till E3... I really hope that both companies will say everything that both consoles will do or won't and none of that "we will unveil that feature on a later date" because peoples will be pissed.
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8 days till E3... I really hope that both companies will say everything that both consoles will do or won't and none of that "we will unveil that feature on a later date" because peoples will be pissed.

i don't care about the policies!! Let's just see some freaking games!!!! Destiny gameplay! Next Halo? Next Gears? Next Dragon Age? Next Mass Effect? New Ignite engine gameplay? Rare makes another Perfect Dark????? SOOOOO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!
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I guarantee Xbox will be just the same.. everything that has been said about the Xbox not allowing this and not doing that is all horrid rumors. With that spoken, wait until launch and 3 months into it to see if things change. PSN was once totally free now it is not following Microsoft's decision to remain pay. You will be surprised on how much Microsoft will trend on Sony.
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If Sony made a statement saying they would not allow publishers to enforce used game DRM then kudos to them.

They have said the complete opposite however.

It's pretty obvious that this would be consistent between platforms. Think about it.

Publisher to shareholders: we are making 200% profit on PS4 titles and 400% on Xbox One.

What do you think would happen next?
post #58 of 91
Both have been shady about it, I'm guessing it's up to the developer to use these features on both. That will be the end result, as some publishers are going to want to promote the used market as a way to make fans happier (saving face). Don't know why people are so uppity, most of this is PR fud to see how the reactions would be.

Steam doesn't promote used games, how many people use that (and Origin - better yet, all clients) and are happy with it? Though on a console, you are more likely to run into the idea of lending a game. It has always been one of those things that were naturally done on a console, which has no real distinguishable traits than used sales.

I can see both sides of it, so if it is a Developer choice than people shouldn't really get upset at the console creators. Developers probably pushed this, I'm guessing due to poor game sales (games that flop, then flood the used game market quick, ending up bringing down the retail price). So in a way we are being punished for crappy publishers. I can only feel that this would create even less sales, as people will be more inclined to read up on a game and get to know what they are buying. In the end, it will only hurt the publishers more.
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Both have been shady about it, I'm guessing it's up to the developer to use these features on both. That will be the end result, as some publishers are going to want to promote the used market as a way to make fans happier (saving face). Don't know why people are so uppity, most of this is PR fud to see how the reactions would be.

Steam doesn't promote used games, how many people use that (and Origin - better yet, all clients) and are happy with it? Though on a console, you are more likely to run into the idea of lending a game. It has always been one of those things that were naturally done on a console, which has no real distinguishable traits than used sales.

I can see both sides of it, so if it is a Developer choice than people shouldn't really get upset at the console creators. Developers probably pushed this, I'm guessing due to poor game sales (games that flop, then flood the used game market quick, ending up bringing down the retail price). So in a way we are being punished for crappy publishers. I can only feel that this would create even less sales, as people will be more inclined to read up on a game and get to know what they are buying. In the end, it will only hurt the publishers more.

+Rep to you sir for seeing all sides of this issue. And I've always wondered why people are A-OK with steam not allowing digital trades while but when used games on consoles aren't allowed, they scream bloody murder. Not that I particularly care either way because I never buy used games, but I can appreciate your civility.
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If this is true, this is the way it should be.

Leave it to the devs/publishers.

They can just make a "Game Pass" if they're interested in making a profit for used games. You buy the used game, you pay $10 for the "Game Pass", that would be the so called fee and it will go to the people that TRULY deserve it: the devs/publisher, not a greedy company who shouldn't be entitled to those profits -Microsoft-.


Anyway, any dev/publisher doing this will take the risk of getting bashed by consumers, but at least Sony's name would be intact, since this is the way the current gen works too -of course in this gen there's only the Online Pass-.

But yeah, let's see what happens.
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