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delidded 3770K = FTW..
I say that because the jury out on Haswell is too soon to be judged..

how longer I need to wait for a clear jury?
I never jump on the first batch of chips to be released, so yes technically Haswell is out but not for me.
as for the waiting, I'd have to wait long enough to get a full understanding on why half of these Haswell chips can't go past 4.6GHz..
with a major issue like that it will have to be addressed ASAP with media coverage and all, that's a big issue.

your situation is different as you need entire platform (as would I if going Haswell) but your coming from AMD
and it's all a big upgrade while I have IB and SB rigs..
post #12 of 29
Was in the same situation 2 weeks ago and decided to go with ivy over haswell because of all the issues mention and price drops on ivy saved me over $150 on cpu/mb combo. Another glaring issue is cpu and ram are tied. You have to pick which one you want to overclock. Ivy oc's well and is capable of running the fastest memory available. To get a decent combination with haswell you would be looking at 4.4-4.6 on the cpu and only being able to run 1866ghz on the ram. $229 for a 3770k vs. $350+ for a 4770k. That's a no brainer. This situation reminds me of BD. After BD came out there was a surge in aquiring the later model Phenom II(1090,1100T)., because a cheaper, older system with an abundance of info and parts made more sense. consumed less power and generated less heat. It also performed better per core.
    
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I never jump on the first batch of chips to be released, so yes technically Haswell is out but not for me.
as for the waiting, I'd have to wait long enough to get a full understanding on why half of these Haswell chips can't go past 4.6GHz..
with a major issue like that it will have to be addressed ASAP with media coverage and all, that's a big issue.

your situation is different as you need entire platform (as would I if going Haswell) but your coming from AMD
and it's all a big upgrade while I have IB and SB rigs..

any news on when will the second batch of cpu are coming out? What about the 3770k, what are normal max oc you would get from it?
post #14 of 29
the last batch of 3570K's and 3770K's are/were stellar overclokers on lower voltage than SB in general
and most of them are grouped a B class chips.
A, B and C are classes that someone has come up with describing IB chips.
B is medium voltage compared to group A but runs cooler on temps while C is labeled the 'golden' chip.

with that being said a non-delidded 3770K should see (on average) 4.5GHz before a serious temp and voltage spike.
excellent cooling like H80i or so should get you 4.8GHz with descent temps while delidding of course drops temps.

now this is in a general sense as every chip can be different specifically, like the lottery..
post #15 of 29
i voted for 3770k because it will be cheaper, hopefully.
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From what are u upgrading?

If u have a 2600k i don't see a need in upgrading at all to be honest smile.gif Waste of money if u ask me tongue.gif
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post #17 of 29
Ivy vs Haswell is a tossup.
There are a number of advantages to Z87 motherboards and Haswell CPUs.
Ivy Bridge involves known factors and proven motherboard and BIOS.. probably at less cost.
For overclocking and a relatively simple build this makes sense.
IF you want more connectivity and a an adventure Haswell looks enticing. My vote, since you are asking. But not what I will do anytime soon.
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From what are u upgrading?

If u have a 2600k i don't see a need in upgrading at all to be honest smile.gif Waste of money if u ask me tongue.gif

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post #19 of 29
I had to make the same decision about this step.

3770k or 4770k

Difference between them would me minimal and the price difference would be greater then the perfomance boost.

I went for 3770k instead of 4770k and looking at the prices now I saved myself about 100-150 euro on a motherboard/cpu combo wich imho is not worth the current performance boost at that price.

But the longer the new chip is out the lower it will be priced if you can wait a little longer and wait out the eventual price you can check yourself if you really like the price you pay for the little extra performance over the 3770k
post #20 of 29
Building a new rig = Get Haswell. Honestly, I think the motherboards will sell the chips this generation. The Z87 line-up is pretty cool., and if you've seen the MSI Z87 XPower, then I'd get that if you're planning on doing SLI/Crossfire down the road. That board has a pretty nifty feature where you can disable PCI-E 3.0 lanes to get more bandwidth.
For example, you can run a 16x/16x SLI/Crossfire on that board - a feature previously exclusive to the Intel 2011 socket.
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