Originally Posted by Pheonix777z
An intelligent person would just install classic start menu and enjoy the extra security and faster boot times of Windows 8.
Only a fool would cry about not being able to navigate Metro
I am fairly intelligent, and I did just that...Honestly, if I hadn't gotten WIndows 8 for free and it wasn't time for a reformat anyway, there's no point in going from 7, especially if you have an SSD. The security features don't mean much to most users here (If you run an AV, Adblock, Firewall, etc then I doubt most of us power users would really have to worry, although it is a boon for normal users) and the boot times are barely any faster than 7 when you compare both OS' after being slimmed down and on an SSD.
Plus, with security...You can polish a turd all you like.
Honestly, those arguments also apply to going to Linux...It boots faster than 8 or 7 does for me and is more secure than WIndows 8 could ever hope to be.
TIL, ~15.7% is equal to 5.2%. (At best)
Originally Posted by yannickhk
BTW, to those who call it a flop, the market share of Win8 after a year is barely lower than windows 7's at the same point in time (1 year after release). So yeah, far from being a flop. Now vista on the other hand
Yeah, how about you actually fact check before you post?
Originally Posted by Xeio
I have 63 with two free spots on1080p. How many groups? I only have 3 which may do it.
And yes, that's the point both start screen and menu nb are two clicks, so why is the former worse?
Lack of jumplists, I can go straight into a previously opened document or spreadsheet with ClassicShell or 7, not so much with 8 unless I pin it to the taskbar.
Originally Posted by hatlesschimp
Windows 8 sales wont slow down as long as people want to buy a new laptop or pc. It comes with the system. But the stats i would like to know is how many people are buying the OS by its self and installing onto their PC's. Then compare that to windows 7.
Actually, people respond by not buying PCs for a while...Happened with Vista and is now happening with 8.
Originally Posted by RiverOfIce
PC sales are slumping. Two reasons. Most of the people don't feel the need to upgrade, they get enough out of their current system. But for the 1/3 that want to upgrade, they have nothing usable to upgrade to. Just go into any place selling windows 8 pc's, watch people use and play with them. You will start to see where you need a good inviting UI to get people to use it. Now watch them move to apple. You will see the whole position change.
That need to upgrade thing has applied since 2005, at least. There's plenty of people who have only replaced PCs when necessary since then (Hence why so many P4s are still in service) and sales only
slumped right before 8 came out, they were up 1.9% vs the year before in Q1 2012, slumped a little in Q2 (Normal before a new Windows release) but then continued slumping in Q3 and beyond. (When did that happen last? Vista.)
Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle
The core desktop is identical. They changed the launcher
. That's all. All you haters seem to be good at doing is exaggerating to get your point across. Either that or you have yet to use Windows 8.
Wait, I didn't know Ribbon was in 7?
Generally, if you're going to call people out on not knowing something..Make sure you know what you're talking about first. There's also other minor changes to the desktop (eg. Multi-monitor taskbars) but since that's all configurable, no-one should complain.
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
Uh, news to me that PC sales just started to decline in October 2012...
They started to decline in Q2, however that's normal before a Windows release.Gartner Says Worldwide PC Shipments Grew 1.9 Percent in First Quarter of 2012
Q4 2011 dropped 1%, but considering we had a HDD shortage due to flooding in October 2011...well, that more than explains a 1% drop in sales.
The whole "PostPC" thing is complete and utter crap, why?
- People haven't been upgrading unless their PC dies since the Pentium 4, meaning the whole "People don't upgrade as often" thing also applied to Vista and 7...Not to mention, planned obsolescence. (And the fact that a good HDD from 1980 lasted 20-30 years, not quite as common these days with all the ~5-10 year deaths from more recent models, eh?)
- Tablets don't replace PCs for most people, most people will always need a physical keyboard to type stuff and probably don't know you can connect a bluetooth one to the tablet.
- The whole "Desktops are dead!" thing has been done so many times...Remember when laptops were meant to kill them off? Yet, they're not even pushing a 30% marketshare today.
- Tablets as we know them today were out in 2010 and certainly taking off in 2011 (I believe sales outstripped PCs that year for the first time) yet sales didn't actually start dropping until the normal pre-Windows slump...Then they continued. Obviously there's more factors to that, but once VIsta started getting popular guess what happened...PC sales growth slowed, hence why OEMs started offering XP in place of Vista.