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Had to reboot and booted up the W8 partition again just for kicks. Spent about an hour trying to organize the start screen and decided I still did not like it. Even after I line up my primary apps and configure the live tile apps, it still seems clunky and messy to me. If I ever do switch to W8 or if later iterations still include this gawd awful UI, looks like I will have to install 3rd party software to restore functionality.
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XP shall not die! LOL

i don't care about W8 at all, because I will probably never use it, but it's good to see w7 finally taking over from XP. My work is scheduled to finally update to 7 from XP by years end.
The entire US government runs Windows Vista, for the record. Having been on countless US Army bases thanks to my last job, I was surprised to learn that fact.
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The entire US government runs Windows Vista, for the record. Having been on countless US Army bases thanks to my last job, I was surprised to learn that fact.

Vista was very underrated IMO. It was a victim of poor OEM configurations, too many versions, and incompatible 3rd party drivers. As those issues resolved over time, everything was good to go.
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The entire US government runs Windows Vista, for the record. Having been on countless US Army bases thanks to my last job, I was surprised to learn that fact.

and then they wonder why cyber security is a problem? ha.
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and then they wonder why cyber security is a problem? ha.

No:
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Vista was very underrated IMO. It was a victim of poor OEM configurations, too many versions, and incompatible 3rd party drivers. As those issues resolved over time, everything was good to go.

The problem with government security issues is typically a fault of the people they have using the network. The kinds of idiots that will "find" a flash drive laying in the parking lot, then immediately take it in to work and plug it into their computer and log in. Voila, instant security breach from malicious software on the flash drive they just found.

There are countless examples of things like this, and almost all of them are ID ten T errors.


I am far less worried about their network security than base security however. I once drove into the new armed forces reserve center outside of madison. All the gates were wide open, nobody at the gate posts whatsoever, and I drove over to one of the maintenence buildings. That gate was also wide open. Walked in the door, found nobody around. The door to the tool cages was open, the cages were unlocked and open, and it took me 15 minutes to find anyone, and even then it took several phone calls.

I could have walked in there and stolen who knows how many things, and there wasn't a security camera in sight. I of course didn't, as I am actually a professional of some sort. I made sure to point this little security failure out to the person that finally came to let me into the only locked door I found - the one containing nothing but barrels of waste oil and antifreeze that I was there to pick up. Totally worthless items, but they were the only things secured.

Granted, things like weapons and actual important hardware ARE in fact kept secure. I saw an armory in several bases that appeared to be a massive vault door. Pretty impressive. However, in many cases I was able to just drive right into the motorpool with nobody in sight.

I have no idea if there are actual keys or any way to prevent unauthorized use of their vehicles, but if they are just push button starts... I should hope that one cannot simply hop in and drive off though.
Edited by Masta Squidge - 6/10/13 at 11:01am
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Can somebody tell me if the picture viewer in Windows 8 can again properly view animated GIFs (that is, not a static image, but the animation) ? They removed that feature from Windows Vista and 7, quoting that very few people had photos in GIF format, but yet they kept it in for compatibility purposes, but left animated GIF viewing out.

If anybody can't see the irony here I'll explain how this is the kind of example that shows how out of touch with reality Microsoft is: GIFs have survived until this day because of the popularity of animated GIFs, not because of still photos stored in that format. So, while their assessment of the low usage of still photos stored in GIF format is right, their approach to leave the most important feature out, making you have to open IE, and only view one at a time, is testament to their completely backwards approach.

If this is how they want to conquer the cool and trendy tablet market, you take a wild guess why they aren't doing too well.

That's why they took that feature out? Seriously? That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.


Yep. Straight from Microsoft:

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Q: Why don't my animated GIF files animate in the Photo Gallery?

The Photo Gallery is designed for management of photos. The GIF format is not widely used for photos, but we included limited support for it due to the fact that some users have photos in this format. However, we did not implement the animation feature. You can use Internet Explorer to view your animated GIF files.

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Can somebody tell me if the picture viewer in Windows 8 can again properly view animated GIFs (that is, not a static image, but the animation) ? They removed that feature from Windows Vista and 7, quoting that very few people had photos in GIF format, but yet they kept it in for compatibility purposes, but left animated GIF viewing out.

If anybody can't see the irony here I'll explain how this is the kind of example that shows how out of touch with reality Microsoft is: GIFs have survived until this day because of the popularity of animated GIFs, not because of still photos stored in that format. So, while their assessment of the low usage of still photos stored in GIF format is right, their approach to leave the most important feature out, making you have to open IE, and only view one at a time, is testament to their completely backwards approach.

If this is how they want to conquer the cool and trendy tablet market, you take a wild guess why they aren't doing too well.

That's why they took that feature out? Seriously? That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

Yep. Straight from Microsoft:

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Q: Why don't my animated GIF files animate in the Photo Gallery?

The Photo Gallery is designed for management of photos. The GIF format is not widely used for photos, but we included limited support for it due to the fact that some users have photos in this format. However, we did not implement the animation feature. You can use Internet Explorer to view your animated GIF files.
That quite doesn't mention why they took it out. Seems like you're MakingUpFactsAndGivingThemAsEvidence™
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That quite doesn't mention why they took it out. Seems like you're MakingUpFactsAndGivingThemAsEvidence™

that's ms's own explanation and yes it's not that clear, but how else is anyone really supposed to know, besides ms?

the real reason imo is maybe to due to battery and processor power limitations on arm systems. another small reason why the windows 8 jackyl and hyde choice is idiotic
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With that kind of market share god knows why they didn't just make a windows 7 tablet edition and service pack the shiz out of the current windows 7. I like the windows 8 optimisation so why couldn't the just do that with a service pack. Build in metro as a optional extra for those who have a touch screen or using a tab and want a simpler experience with the full os always there for when you need it. Silly MS. I think there product strategy expert is a bit of a chop.

As a day to day user of windows 8, I feel its more of an optimised windows 7 with no start button. Definitely not enough changes to call a new os. And just the name bugs me. 8. I like actual names for things. Windows **** up.
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That quite doesn't mention why they took it out. Seems like you're MakingUpFactsAndGivingThemAsEvidence™

Oh please, it works fine in Windows XP, and in that FAQ (from Windows Vista) they mention that only still a few people had photos in GIF format, hence the limited implementation.

How much are you willing to go to defend Microsoft ? They obviously aren't in touch with reality and why the GIF format is still popular to this day. That is what I said, and interestingly you didin't have a thing to say about that, which is the essence of the question.

I didn't make up any facts.

Windows XP's Photo Gallery can view animated GIFs: FACT.

Windows Vista's and onwards can't: FACT

The GIF file format is popular to this day not because people store their new pictures in 256 colors, but because of animated GIFs: FACT.

And Microsoft has failed to understand how inconvenient it is to have to open IE to view those and actually misleads users when viewing a gallery with still photos and animated GIFs to think that the animated GIFs aren't animated at all.

Even if you want to read more into their first sentence and claim that they are making a formal approach and implying that animated GIFs are not really photos, their approach to supporting the format in a practical way is still backwards like I said. But feel free to not address that part of the question.
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