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He isn't really bothered... it's just a way to complain about Win8.
No, I happen to like windows 8, aside from the start screen and terrible surround support, both of which will be moot when I buy a 4k monitor in the future.

I am complaining about the lack of ability to view GIFs in the photo viewer, because this is an actual problem I have to put up with nearly every single time I am wasting my life on 4chan.
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That is 5 seconds too many if I already have the photo viewer open and am flipping through my image folder.

There is no argument for why this shouldn't be a feature. It always has been, and they went out of their way to remove it. They gave themselves extra work to take away something which had no reason to be removed.

Did I say anything about it being justified? Maybe you should have read the first half of my post.

I'm just saying, if IE is taking more than 10 seconds to load, something is wrong. Then again, your sig rig doesn't have an SSD, so it's conceivable that it might take up to a minute, especially if there's a lot of plugins (adobe pdf, java, etc.)
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Did I say anything about it being justified? Maybe you should have read the first half of my post.

I'm just saying, if IE is taking more than 10 seconds to load, something is wrong. Then again, your sig rig doesn't have an SSD, so it's conceivable that it might take up to a minute, especially if there's a lot of plugins (adobe pdf, java, etc.)
Well it isn't literally a minute. The point is that Microsoft claims they did it to save on resources, but all it did was require more resources to do the same job, in addition to causing problems for users.

Last time I checked, the fundamental goal of software design is to reduce problems for users and be more efficient on the hardware. This choice went in the opposite direction of both of those things.

And considering the whole point of the debate is about whether or not it is justified, why are you even commenting? Everyone by this point knows how to work around it, and everyone who knows how to do so knows it is a hassle. I don't need you to tell me how to display my GIFs, if that is the only reason you are telling me this lol
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It's funny watching people trying to defend W8. You guys are the minority. You guys lost. It's a major flop. Customers aren't stupid. MS didn't give options but tried to shove their new OS down people's throats. Customers and businesses didn't fall for it. biggrin.gif
Actually... I think that Win 8 was to be administered at the other end (as they already went to the throat with Vista).

They just don't learn from past mistakes. Stop trying to push the O/S envelope so hard to the masses... They just don't have the same buy in as your applications software customers.
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Well, it is just that you have to all the way back to XP to find a version of Windows that has a built in picture viewer that is capable of opening .gif files. So it is far too late to complain about it now. People should have been on their horses about it when it happened in Vista...or when they didn't add it back in Windows 7. You are picking now to complain about it?

And you are trying to talk resources? If the machine is capable of getting past the Windows 8 loading screen then it has all the resources it would need to open fifty browser windows (or tabs...which is nice for viewing .gifs or even pictures actually) for all the .gif viewing you could want to do.

But the thing is... people were! The link I posted goes all the way back to the Windows Vista times and that question is part of the FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions, so, yes, people were indeed asking about it way back then so much so that even Microsoft acknowledged people were asking about it frequently.

And people complained again when Windows 7 came out, just do a google search and look for the first results, one of them is a several page long thread where people come in to thank a guy who made an easy to use program to view animated GIFs.

That thread started in 2009 and the last post is from 3 days ago: http://www.sevenforums.com/music-pictures-video/39095-animated-gifs-windows-photo-viewer.html

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Just an update:

The default Photos Metro app is capable of viewing animated GIFs. The desktop version not being able to is just complete doh.gif

Really ? LOL

Thanks for the update! Rep+

Microsoft forgetting consistency within the OS.

But then again, they always had a problem with that. The IE10 scroll bar, for example, doesn't respect the Windows 7 User Experience Guidelines, and many people all over the net have complained it's actually worse to see than the older one - not only because of it's 2D nature instead of the 3D of the older one, but also because of the colour scheme - in fact it's both of them combined.
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I hate new Internet explorer. I hate how all the new win8 apps go full screen.

I cringe whenever I use my win8 Samsung laptop. I wonder how it will go if I load win7 on it.
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The problem as I mentioned before is that certain businesses dont even allow IE10 to VPN so it renders it useless for the clients or home businesses that telecommutes, we just need the option for legacy UI interactions to phase out the need for start button and desktop etc
    
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Who the hell uses IE regardless?

IE is used to download other browsers, lol.
 
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For one reason, and one reason only. The stupid start screen. Once you fix that problem, windows 8 is better in literally every possible way.

I have said it since day one that this was announced, the "tablet overlay" as I called it, aka the start SCREEN, is completely and utterly useless in a desktop environment. MS made an epic mistake forcing this on non-touch screen devices. The OS should be aware of whether or not it is on a touch enabled device, and if not, revert to a windows 7 style start menu. This simple change would have saved this OS from the embarrassment and horrible reviews.


The OS on its own is damn good.

It's still subjective, some people would be insanely annoyed by the ribbon in explorer...Some people still complain about it in Office.
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Oh please, it works fine in Windows XP, and in that FAQ (from Windows Vista) they mention that only still a few people had photos in GIF format, hence the limited implementation.

How much are you willing to go to defend Microsoft ? They obviously aren't in touch with reality and why the GIF format is still popular to this day. That is what I said, and interestingly you didin't have a thing to say about that, which is the essence of the question.

I didn't make up any facts.

Windows XP's Photo Gallery can view animated GIFs: FACT.

Windows Vista's and onwards can't: FACT

The GIF file format is popular to this day not because people store their new pictures in 256 colors, but because of animated GIFs: FACT.

And Microsoft has failed to understand how inconvenient it is to have to open IE to view those and actually misleads users when viewing a gallery with still photos and animated GIFs to think that the animated GIFs aren't animated at all.

Even if you want to read more into their first sentence and claim that they are making a formal approach and implying that animated GIFs are not really photos, their approach to supporting the format in a practical way is still backwards like I said. But feel free to not address that part of the question.

The question really is..why spend the time to actively remove it, don't update it (Unless it's for security) and the like but leaving it isn't going to hurt anyone.
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He isn't really bothered... it's just a way to complain about Win8.

It has nothing to do with Windows 8? It was about Vista and 7, more.
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And you are trying to talk resources? If the machine is capable of getting past the Windows 8 loading screen then it has all the resources it would need to open fifty browser windows (or tabs...which is nice for viewing .gifs or even pictures actually) for all the .gif viewing you could want to do.

Do that on a typical laptop, watch it chug...Not everyone has an SSD. In general, loading up less programs is always better.
    
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Windows 8 is complete and utter garbage. And I feel like I'm being generous by holding back my feelings about Windows 8 that much.

I purchased a cheap laptop a few months ago and it had this atrocity for an OS installed on it. Within 30 minutes I installed a spare copy of Windows 7 on it. It was the most annoying computer experience since I had to RMA 1/2 the parts on the last rig I built.

I at least tolerated Vista on one of my old PCs, and it wasn't nearly as bad as Windows 8. I've used every windows since the original windows, and before that DOS. And Windows 8 is by far the worst designed OS out of all of them. Windows 2000 was pretty bad too, and its a close second behind 8.
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