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In my month's worth of experience, Windows 8 is just flat out annoying on a laptop.

It isn't too bad...the only really annoying part is the initial setup and perhaps organizing the start screen after installing new software. After that is done it isn't too bad...just don't use the mouse if you don't have to and it won't be that much different than any other OS. Though I am a keyboard junky when it comes to navigating an OS.

Tips:
If shutting down or logging off...hit alt-F4...don't do that dumb mouse to the corner thing and hover through sub-menus.
Make use of the Windows key + W or I or K or X for settings or device config
Plus most of the old hot keys are still there; Windows key +D takes you to the desktop, Windows key +R opens the run command, Windows key plus a number opens whatever is pined to the taskbar...ect. So don't give up on the way you may have used Windows 7.
Don't install any apps...seriously...they are garbage. Just install what ever older tools you used on Windows 7
If you want to use the docking feature...Windows key + period will move them around
If you are like me and are missing the Vista/7 gadgets...RainMaker is a decent substitute, but I'd still prefer my gadgets.

Those are the ones I use all the time on Windows 8...if you use the hot keys in 7 like I do you will not really experience much of a difference in Windows 8. Hence why I say it isn't worth it. I got it free via my employer otherwise I would not install it. All you gain is a nicer task manager...unless you think the app store is a great and wonderful thing. If you already have Vista or Windows 7 there is no point in getting 8...however, at the same time if you get a new laptop and get 8 on it there is no point in installing Vista or 7 on it. The only down side is that initial setup of the Start Sceen...kind of like installing Linux, except in Linux most people look at the extra configuration as a good thing. We've just gotten used to Windows setting all this stuff up for us.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 6/11/13 at 6:52am
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What the article really needs to focus in why in gods name are people still using XP. MS needs to just send a kill code that OS.
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It isn't too bad...the only really annoying part is the...

The mouse pad experience is awful. I am constantly opening unwanted menus, switching apps accidentally, or resizing the screen without meaning to. I can see myself going out and buying a copy of Win7 to run on this thing.
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The mouse pad experience is awful. I am constantly opening unwanted menus, switching apps accidentally, or resizing the screen without meaning to. I can see myself going out and buying a copy of Win7 to run on this thing.

Adjust your trackpad settings. They allow you to disable and modify gestures you know.
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The mouse pad experience is awful. I am constantly opening unwanted menus, switching apps accidentally, or resizing the screen without meaning to. I can see myself going out and buying a copy of Win7 to run on this thing.

what do you expect? they designed those gestures for touchscreen rather than improving window's craptastic trackpad gesture support. because touchscreen gestures are more ergonomic and make more sense on a laptop than trackpad gestures...
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Adjust your trackpad settings. They allow you to disable and modify gestures you know.

I've looked for solutions online and not seen anything that helped me. I'll look again.

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what do you expect? they designed those gestures for touchscreen rather than improving window's craptastic trackpad gesture support. because touchscreen gestures are more ergonomic and make more sense on a laptop than trackpad gestures...

However they ended up with what they have, what they have is terrible.
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The mouse pad experience is awful. I am constantly opening unwanted menus, switching apps accidentally, or resizing the screen without meaning to. I can see myself going out and buying a copy of Win7 to run on this thing.

That's why I said you have to be careful not to touch the mouse if you don't have to. In Windows 8 your mouse is like a finger on a touch screen. It sounds rather stupid, but I think it is a good comparison. That is why all the hot keys are so necessary in Windows 8. The hot keys keep you from touching your "finger" to the screen. If you start using them exclusively your Windows 8 experience shouldn't be all that much different than a Vista/Windows 7 experience. At least it feels that way to me. Give me a choice? I'd probably pick Windows 7, but if I was given 8 I wouldn't spend money to get rid of it.

Though in my opinion any mouse pad experience is horrible...I carry a regular mouse with my laptop every where I go. I actually prefer those little stick mice over the mouse pads.
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That's why I said you have to be careful not to touch the mouse if you don't have to

fantastic ui design right there LOL

but hey at least they are crippling mouse/trackpad input for a new form of input that no one actually uses/wants
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fantastic ui design right there LOL

but hey at least they are crippling mouse/trackpad input for a new form of input that no one actually uses/wants

yeah, pretty much. I don't think it can be argued that the OS was obviously designed for a touch screen...which doesn't necessarily mean a tablet or phone, but typically does not mean for a desktop environment...even laptops don't work that great with touch screens.

So just come into the OS thinking as such and you will be fine. You don't drum your fingers on your phone's screen...it would mess something up. Same with Windows 8 and when using a mouse pad on a laptop it can be pretty easy to do a tap when you don't want to. So learn the hot keys and setup the voice recognition and voice commands. If you do so I think you will find it OK to use, but I can certainly see how some one's personal tastes would not make this an ideal computing experience.
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yeah, pretty much. I don't think it can be argued that the OS was obviously designed for a touch screen...which doesn't necessarily mean a tablet or phone, but typically does not mean for a desktop environment...even laptops don't work that great with touch screens.

So just come into the OS thinking as such and you will be fine. You don't drum your fingers on your phone's screen...it would mess something up. Same with Windows 8 and when using a mouse pad on a laptop it can be pretty easy to do a tap when you don't want to. So learn the hot keys and setup the voice recognition and voice commands. If you do so I think you will find it OK to use, but I can certainly see how some one's personal tastes would not make this an ideal computing experience.

it's not just about taste though, it's about functionality. not everything can be done most efficiently with keyboard commands. many x86 programs are dependent on mouse/trackpad support.

when i edit all my essays in word, now i'm supposed to avoid using a mouse/trackpad? it's just absurd really
Edited by perfectblade - 6/11/13 at 10:31am
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