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Will be upgrading in the next couple months, and was originally looking at the Titan, possibly a 780 if I can find one with 4-5gb vRam, and pairing it with a new 1440p monitor. Then ASUS drops this bomb on me. 4k this summer? The response time is way slower then I am use to (8ms vs my current 2ms g2g) and I am assuming it will impact the final experience on this new setup, although I have only ever gamed on setups that have a 2ms response time. What is everyones thoughts on this new monitor and 4k in general? Worth waiting it out to see what happens in the up coming months or should I just go for one of the PLS monitors and call it a day?
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price is probably going to be v.high on 4k monitors for another 6 months. Id stick with 27" 1440p monitor for now, you can always sell up when GPU's start to ship with 6gb as standard and are a good 25% faster than now

4k is going to suck when no amount of tweaking gets you over 30fps on high settings, at least 1440p is still a high DPI and only usually a 35- 40% hit compared with 1080p, doing that math means 4k is going to be twice the hit on top of that again!
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price is probably going to be v.high on 4k monitors for another 6 months. Id stick with 27" 1440p monitor for now, you can always sell up when GPU's start to ship with 6gb as standard and are a good 25% faster than now

4k is going to suck when no amount of tweaking gets you over 30fps on high settings, at least 1440p is still a high DPI and only usually a 35- 40% hit compared with 1080p, doing that math means 4k is going to be twice the hit on top of that again!
you really think even a titan wont be able to push 4k above 30fps? Still waiting to see the price though, assuming it wont make the upgrade to 4k worth it in the near future
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My Qnix running at 120hz beats that monitor and it was 300 bucks. The new Asus is said to be around $5,000 nuff said. rolleyes.gif
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4kres will be awfully demanding, definitely for maxing games, I would just get a 1440p display for now.
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4kres will be awfully demanding, definitely for maxing games, I would just get a 1440p display for now.

Well it depends, i mean 3840x2160@60hz VS 2560x1440@120hz is actually pretty close. Graphics wise it is only 10% difference in overall processing. I will take the hit on pixels and keep 120hz(not to mention save over 4 thousand dollars). I am not trying to knock this jump in resolution but i just hope they come down to prices that are not just crazy. This display would be damn tempting if it was under 2,000 or was higher than 60hz.
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Well it depends, i mean 3840x2160@60hz VS 2560x1440@120hz is actually pretty close. Graphics wise it is only 10% difference in overall processing. I will take the hit on pixels and keep 120hz(not to mention save over 4 thousand dollars). I am not trying to knock this jump in resolution but i just hope they come down to prices that are not just crazy. This display would be damn tempting if it was under 2,000 or was higher than 60hz.

Where do you get this 10% number from? That's more than double the pixels. While less pixels than a 2560x1440x3 eyefinity/surround setup, its gonna take some high end graphics cards to get usable frames.
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Where do you get this 10% number from? That's more than double the pixels. While less pixels than a 2560x1440x3 eyefinity/surround setup, its gonna take some high end graphics cards to get usable frames.

The difference between 120hz and 60hz. Think about it, the Asus is 8294400 pixels over a sample of 60hz where my Qnix is 3686400 pixels over a 120hz sample. Simply stating that 120hz is double 60hz(duh) you can just multiply the pixels by 2 to get commonly divisible factors making the Qnix 7372800. Then divide the two together to get a percentage difference and it is actually 8.8 percent less than i originally thought. This is simple algebra applied to display processing points and is going to be quite accurate unless there is some unknown variable that is affecting the processing of frames variables at a different rate than the overall pixel count. Here is a visual. Someone correct me if i am wrong but this is taking all possibly viewable pixels into account.

2560x1440x120 / 3840x2160x60 = 8.8888888

Is this wrong? Any monitor engineers here that want to chime in?

Not trying to be a smart ass but merely explain where i got the 10 percent (errrrr 8.8 percent) thumb.gif
Edited by Spartan F8 - 6/2/13 at 10:32pm
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The difference between 120hz and 60hz. Think about it, the Asus is 8294400 pixels over a sample of 60hz where my Qnix is 3686400 pixels over a 120hz sample. Simply stating that 120hz is double 60hz(duh) you can just multiply the pixels by 2 to get commonly divisible factors making the Qnix 7372800. Then divide the two together to get a percentage difference and it is actually 8.8 percent less than i originally thought. This is simple algebra applied to display processing points and is going to be quite accurate unless there is some unknown variable that is affecting the processing of frames variables at a different rate than the overall pixel count. Here is a visual. Someone correct me if i am wrong but this is taking all possibly viewable pixels into account.

2560x1440x120 / 3840x2160x60 = 8.8888888

Is this wrong? Any monitor engineers here that want to chime in?

Not trying to be a smart ass but merely explain where i got the 10 percent (errrrr 8.8 percent) thumb.gif

Ah. Wasn't taking in account the hz. But I'm more than sure that the graphics card required to run that resolution, at least at something acceptable for gaming, would require probably something very top of the line. But I see where you're coming from.
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Ah. Wasn't taking in account the hz. But I'm more than sure that the graphics card required to run that resolution, at least at something acceptable for gaming, would require probably something very top of the line. But I see where you're coming from.
well I am planning on going Titan or 780 if a 4gb+ model is released, so I think I should be able to push either biggrin.gif

Spartan F8 how do you like that Qnix so far? I originally was looking at Crossovers, but saw these new PLS monitors are overclocking like crazy so I started to lean that way. Any troubles getting it to the 120hz mark?
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