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Unless you have 5000$ laying around for the new 4K monitors which will be crap for gaming anyway

So go get a 1440P monitor
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post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by xRehab View Post

well I am planning on going Titan or 780 if a 4gb+ model is released, so I think I should be able to push either biggrin.gif

Spartan F8 how do you like that Qnix so far? I originally was looking at Crossovers, but saw these new PLS monitors are overclocking like crazy so I started to lean that way. Any troubles getting it to the 120hz mark?

It is quite literally the best monitor i have ever used (overall). You get the high pixel density of 1440p and the lush smoothness of 120hz. Getting 120hz takes some steps most of which are explained in great detail on the forum. I got to 120hz with no problem at all. the issues came from getting it to run at 120hz completely stable. I go into this in detail in the other forums for the Qnix and xstar monitors. Hech i even got it to 144hz but with some screen uniformity issues so i backed it up to 120hz. The color profiles are a must and they do get harder to match as you get higher in the overclock. I got lucky in the fact that i got a monitor with no dead pixels and virtually no backlight bleed. I also have the highest benchmarked overclock in the thread so far(at least no one else has claimed bragging rights yet) at 152hz. Gaming is not as good as the Asus 144hz monitor with light boost but i can say that no other monitor i have tried beats it by any noticeable amount due to the lack of a scaler and 120hz. For 300 bucks it is the best bang for your buck on the market IF you can deal with its drawbacks ie: no scaler, no extra ports, bad stand, warranty(i am assuming if you are looking at the crossover brands these wont be an issue for you and heck most of them are fixable).

The biggest plus for me was 120hz due to the absolute beauty of Madvr + smooth motion on a PLS 120hz monitor. The extra frames present a film experience that makes the movie theater obsolete for me now(even digital projection). For just straight picture quality and PLS@120hz there is not going to be a contender for the Qnix and xstar in the affordable range for possibly years. I mean you can buy 3 of these and debezel them and put them in portrait and after ocerclocking to 120hz you will have more monitor for cheaper than your going to find for a LONG time.
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It is quite literally the best monitor i have ever used (overall). You get the high pixel density of 1440p and the lush smoothness of 120hz. Getting 120hz takes some steps most of which are explained in great detail on the forum. I got to 120hz with no problem at all. the issues came from getting it to run at 120hz completely stable. I go into this in detail in the other forums for the Qnix and xstar monitors. Hech i even got it to 144hz but with some screen uniformity issues so i backed it up to 120hz. The color profiles are a must and they do get harder to match as you get higher in the overclock. I got lucky in the fact that i got a monitor with no dead pixels and virtually no backlight bleed. I also have the highest benchmarked overclock in the thread so far(at least no one else has claimed bragging rights yet) at 152hz. Gaming is not as good as the Asus 144hz monitor with light boost but i can say that no other monitor i have tried beats it by any noticeable amount due to the lack of a scaler and 120hz. For 300 bucks it is the best bang for your buck on the market IF you can deal with its drawbacks ie: no scaler, no extra ports, bad stand, warranty(i am assuming if you are looking at the crossover brands these wont be an issue for you and heck most of them are fixable).

The biggest plus for me was 120hz due to the absolute beauty of Madvr + smooth motion on a PLS 120hz monitor. The extra frames present a film experience that makes the movie theater obsolete for me now(even digital projection). For just straight picture quality and PLS@120hz there is not going to be a contender for the Qnix and xstar in the affordable range for possibly years. I mean you can buy 3 of these and debezel them and put them in portrait and after ocerclocking to 120hz you will have more monitor for cheaper than your going to find for a LONG time.
sounds good to me man, you may have just sold me on the Qnix thumb.gif Was planning on getting a 3 monitor mount anyways so the bad stand is not problem. Have you tried debezeling it? Was considering giving it a go since I hate the bezel on my 2 ASUS 23" when they are next to eachother. Also on a side note, know of any good mounts that would allow me to do a 1440p in the center landscape with two 23" in portrait? Might have to be a little custom creation to pull this off, but haven't even begun to look into mounts yet.
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sounds good to me man, you may have just sold me on the Qnix thumb.gif Was planning on getting a 3 monitor mount anyways so the bad stand is not problem. Have you tried debezeling it? Was considering giving it a go since I hate the bezel on my 2 ASUS 23" when they are next to eachother. Also on a side note, know of any good mounts that would allow me to do a 1440p in the center landscape with two 23" in portrait? Might have to be a little custom creation to pull this off, but haven't even begun to look into mounts yet.

There is a debezeling guide on the primary forum for these and it does take off a good amount of the bezel (use lots of electrical tape). I have not done so since i am only running one of them due to the fact i just don't have the Gfx power to run 3 and keep gaming at a stable 120fps. I do have a custom monitor mount holding my Qnix and 2 Asus IPS panels, i got it make by a local metal shop for like 150 bucks(great deal i know). Most of the really good triple stands are Ergotron. I have also heard good things about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Triple-Monitor-Stand-Standing-Curved/dp/B006FZY2XK

Also if you don't mind clamping it a friend of mine has this one and had good things to say about it.

http://shop.easymountlcd.com/Deluxe-Triple-Monitor-Stand-Desktop-Clamp-up-to-28-002-0019-002-0019.htm

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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post

There is a debezeling guide on the primary forum for these and it does take off a good amount of the bezel (use lots of electrical tape). I have not done so since i am only running one of them due to the fact i just don't have the Gfx power to run 3 and keep gaming at a stable 120fps. I do have a custom monitor mount holding my Qnix and 2 Asus IPS panels, i got it make by a local metal shop for like 150 bucks(great deal i know). Most of the really good triple stands are Ergotron. I have also heard good things about this one:

Is the debezeling guide the video playlist where the guy takes the entire monitor apart or is there a guide that will help me figure out how to completely remove the plastic casing of the monitor and attach the PCB/electronics to the panel (since I am pretty sure they are attached to the inside of the plastic casing)?
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post #16 of 27
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Is the debezeling guide the video playlist where the guy takes the entire monitor apart or is there a guide that will help me figure out how to completely remove the plastic casing of the monitor and attach the PCB/electronics to the panel (since I am pretty sure they are attached to the inside of the plastic casing)?

Yes and with cross referencing the methodology used with that video and the methods used to tape off a monitor in this video linked below you should be on the right track

http://www.overclock.net/t/1397263/official-debezelled-monitor-portrait-surround-eyefinity-owners

Anything attached is going to have to be detached. You are "modding" the monitor thumb.gif
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post

There is a debezeling guide on the primary forum for these and it does take off a good amount of the bezel (use lots of electrical tape). I have not done so since i am only running one of them due to the fact i just don't have the Gfx power to run 3 and keep gaming at a stable 120fps. I do have a custom monitor mount holding my Qnix and 2 Asus IPS panels, i got it make by a local metal shop for like 150 bucks(great deal i know). Most of the really good triple stands are Ergotron. I have also heard good things about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Triple-Monitor-Stand-Standing-Curved/dp/B006FZY2XK

Also if you don't mind clamping it a friend of mine has this one and had good things to say about it.

http://shop.easymountlcd.com/Deluxe-Triple-Monitor-Stand-Desktop-Clamp-up-to-28-002-0019-002-0019.htm

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the amazon link is the stand I have. Here is the same product at a different seller, just because it has better images

http://www.amazon.com/Deluxe-Monitor-Standing-Supports-002-0020/dp/B006JG9RQ2/ref=pd_sim_op_3

it will fit 3 qnix's that havent been debezeled in landscape mode...but just barely.

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portrait


one landscape 2 portrait
Edited by brightbus - 6/4/13 at 1:16am
post #18 of 27
Believe me, I want 4K clarity/resolution really bad. The issue? If you go 4K you are stuck at 60 Hz with poor pixel response time. If you like gaming with a heap of motion blur. redface.gif
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Ill be interested to see how the 8ms response time affects picture quality. I cant stand shadowing/ghosting, i had a 37" samsung LCD 4 years ago which iirc had a 8ms or 6ms response time and it shadowed like crazy, i couldn't stand it so i got my money back and bought the screen im currently using (42" Panasonic plasma) which bassicaly has instant response times <0.01ms.

However that said, my old mans new 37" toshiba LCD has a 5ms response time and i cant see any ghosting on that when he plays his games.


Anyway the prce is expected to be $3800 roughly for the 31.5inch versions. I bet the 39" version is $4000 maybe a tad more. Ether way, chances are that figure wont drop much when it omes ot the UK and so its out of my price range. I stil lhave to buy a second GTX 780 aswell to be able to run games at that res. Ill be waiting till 2014 i think.

Personaly i think 4k on a 31.5inch screen is waste, specialy if ur only in it for the picture quality. 1440p and 1600p is already over retinia standards at that size, so going higher is wasted.
39" on the other hand, well currently u can only get 1080p at sizes above 30" and below 55" which means <100PPI and means unles ur sitting rather far back, it is not Retina quality.
This Asus 39" screen will fill a massive void in picture quality at that size and is the only 1 of the 2 i think any1 should consider getting.
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My Qnix running at 120hz beats that monitor and it was 300 bucks. The new Asus is said to be around $5,000 nuff said. rolleyes.gif

Beats it in your opinion, id rather have 4k @ 60hz than 1440p at 120hz.

It is all personal preference, might as well be comparing an apple and an orange
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