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Hi guys,

I don't often post as I usually find my answers by looking around, and that I'm not experienced enough to really help frown.gif However, this problem I am having now, I can't really seemed to find a solution, as it may seem common, but what I searched doesn't seemed to solve my problems.

Preface
Here it is... About 1-2 weeks ago, I started noticing after windows (7) booted up, my programs would respond very slowly. The computer doesn't freeze but everything responds slowly; such as chrome opens, and the webpages took a very long time to load. I initially thought it was because of lots of files needed to be sync'd on my dropbox. Other examples may be I try to open up file explorer or just a calculator, takes long time. The computer doesn't seemed like it's struggling, but very slow response time to everything.

Since then, I did a system optimisation using a software suite which is quite popular among the SEAsian community. Did an SSD (my boot drive and OS) optimisation using Samsung Magician. This included both the optimisation part and driver/firmware update.

Currently
More recently (in the last few days), it's progressed to the boot up takes a very long time. Around the 5-6 min mark from power-on button to windows fully loaded. When it was functioning fine, the flying-colours animation on windows boot would finish when the four colours JUST met (to form the "window"). However, now, that place took about 1 min to get past, then another 30-40sec of black screen with a (movable) mouse cursor.

After that loaded, still took some time to load the programs. And although Chrome now opens immediately after I click on the icon, webpages also take long time to load, other applications are like this too.

Possible Solutions
Having had searched online, the most common suggestion was to check the AHCI was enabled --- which it was
Checking the video drivers are up to date --- which is it
Running it in safe-mode --- haven't tried that, but I don't see how that could 'fix' the problem even it it DOES boot faster

Restrictions
I don't want to reinstall my windows, as it is still very clean and functional. And the particular software I run on windows takes few days to setup, and the software plugins activation are a pain as well.
Essentially that is my only restriction.

Specs:
CPU: i5 3570K OC 4.8GHz
Cooling: Water cooled Kit (XSPC) EX360 with non-OEM fans
GFX: GTX480 (no OC)
RAM: 8G G.Skill 2400MHz (2x4G)
HDD: Caviar Black 2TB
SSD: 2x Samsung 840 Pro
PSU: Forgot, but a semi modular Corsair, I think HX850
MB: Asus ROG Maximus Gene V


Thanks for reading this long post, any suggestions would help. I know you might need more info to understand what's going on, please let me know what you need to know and I'll have them posted.

Cheers,
Brendan
Edited by brenchen - 6/2/13 at 6:35pm
post #2 of 39
What's your pagefile size?
Open task manager, in the processes tab, click the top of the CPU column until the process are arranged by CPU usage. What's hogging resources?

You can also do the same with the memory column.
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post #3 of 39
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Thanks for the reply. Processes tab says "System Idle Process" is hogging up the CPU. Otherwise it changes alot, but usually either "System" or "Chrome" is taking the 2nd place.

Memory wise "Chrome" is on top. But either way, my CPU usage is 0% (~1%) and memory is under 2GB (as it is now).
post #4 of 39
Perhaps the pump failed and the CPU gets hot and protects itself by throttling its speed? "HWMonitor" is a simple program that shows all temperature sensors and fan speeds for stuff that's connected to your motherboard, including CPU core temperatures.
post #5 of 39
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Currently it's doing fine though (by 'fine' I mean the temperatures are not rediculous), not sure about during the boot. I won't be able to access (that I know of) any info until windows is booted. Although I didn't use HWMonitor, I'm using Core Temp (what I use when I did my OC). It's showing average of about 30-32C, ambient about 23-25C now. So I assume it's all fine. I check my res and the water seems to be flowing...
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I apologize if suggesting checking at the temperature felt offensive. You didn't mention anything about this in the OP.

What you describe just seems so strange. Your other answer about how the Task Manager looks like also doesn't show anything strange. That "system idle process" is just the part of Windows that's managing power saving when no programs want to do anything. That's why it's at the top when nothing is going on and you are on the desktop with only the browser open.

EDIT: perhaps try setting the power profile to "high performance" instead of the usual "balanced" profile in the Control Panel just to be sure that's not what's breaking things
Edited by deepor - 6/2/13 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by deepor View Post

I apologize if suggesting checking at the temperature felt offensive. You didn't mention anything about this in the OP.

What you describe just seems so strange. Your other answer about how the Task Manager looks like also doesn't show anything strange. That "system idle process" is just the part of Windows that's managing power saving when no programs want to do anything. That's why it's at the top when nothing is going on and you are on the desktop with only the browser open.

EDIT: perhaps try setting the power profile to "high performance" instead of the usual "balanced" profile in the Control Panel just to be sure that's not what's breaking things

No no, I didn't take it offensively. It makes sense to ask that.

Now that you mention control panel, this is another symptom. Control Panel, or anything that I open through "Start" menu takes like 10 sec to respond, this also applies to stuff like "Computer", "Documents" etc.. Again, nothing is frozen or laggy, but just a very long response time.

Regarding the setting, it is already set on "High Performance"
Edited by brenchen - 6/2/13 at 6:17pm
post #8 of 39
Try booting into Safe Mode just to see if the PC works normal like that. If the PC feels fine and reasonably fast in Safe Mode, this should be proof that everything about the hardware is fine. If that's the case, it could be software or drivers that got installed recently or a virus.

For software and drivers, there are two screens to check in the Control Panel. There's the screen you get to when you want to uninstall programs. You can sort the table on that screen by the "Installed On" column and try to guess what could have happened around the date your PC slowed down. There's another screen in the Control Panel showing all stuff automatically installed by Windows Update. You get to that if you search for "windows update" in control panel search box and click on "view update history" in the results. It has a column "Date installed" which you can use to sort the list.

For the virus or worm or trojan, you'd scan the PC with software for that while in Safe Mode.

If you feel helpless at the end of that, you might want to see if you have a System Restore point you can roll back to. You could get away without reinstalling Windows completely like that. A System Restore point still loses everything on C: you've worked on up to that date, so make backups of your work.
post #9 of 39
Thread Starter 
Just tried it with Safe Mode, things doesn't seemed to have noticible improvement. Also I tried windows repair the boot, it said no problems found.
post #10 of 39
If Safe Mode is also slow it's perhaps something about the hardware. There's the CPU and board, the memory and the hard drive. One of those three should be the cause, I'd think.

Here's a guide on how to use the memory test that's built into Windows 7: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html

If that's fine, I'd think cpu+board+memory are running okay and you should look into how to diagnose hard drive (or SSD) problems.

You might also want to take out the graphics card and check if everything runs fine with integrated graphics of the CPU+board.
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