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I've been waiting about 3 years to upgrade and now Haswell is upon us! But with its very disappointing performance I'm at a stand still.


Haswell overclocking (from HARDOCP) :
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70% of CPUs can clock to 4.5GHz, 30% of CPUs can clock to 4.6GHz, 20% of CPUs can clock to 4.7GHz, 10% of CPUs can to 4.8GHz

And Haswell is generally equal to a +.2hz Ivy. So which is the better CPU for someone planning to overclock?

But wait, its not that simple. The board I planned on getting is the GIGABYTE G1.Sniper 5 OR the ASUS Maximus V FORMULA (if Ivy).

Why get a $400 board? Because ;
1. SO MANY FEATURES
2. (answer this for me) Onboard audio that will allow me to avoid buying a sound card for my HD 558s?
3. I'd say the best OCing board for Haswell
4. SEXYYYY


Now, the Ivy setup is $140 cheaper, but I will have to buy a ~$100 sound card (I think).

So what seems best?
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If going Ivy: Don't get the Maximus V Formula, it's a super waste of money and is E-ATX.

The jury's still out on Haswell. Early indications are it's a sidegrade CPU-wise because the OCs on air/water are just about 4.4-4.5
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If going Ivy: Don't get the Maximus V Formula, it's a super waste of money and is E-ATX.

The jury's still out on Haswell. Early indications are it's a sidegrade CPU-wise because the OCs on air/water are just about 4.4-4.5

Whats comparable for a lower price? Frankly I like EVERYTHING about that board. Plus I've got a Haf X from my previous build.
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If you're skeptical about haswell, wait a week and see mass results. Although if impulse buy, id go haswell because 6 usb and sata 6 ports, and simply because its a newer platform which can be upgraded in the future.
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I'm in the exact same situation as you, upgrading from a 965 Phenom II. I've decided to go for Haswell simply because it's the latest socket, not to mention I've waited 3 months just to see whether it was worth getting and it doesn't seem like it's a "bad" upgrade as it were so I may aswell get it. In future I'm sure I'll upgrade the 1150 CPU which would be harder to do on an 1155 (not sure if Intel are planning on releasing any more Ivy processors though).
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I'm in the exact same situation as you, upgrading from a 965 Phenom II. I've decided to go for Haswell simply because it's the latest socket, not to mention I've waited 3 months just to see whether it was worth getting and it doesn't seem like it's a "bad" upgrade as it were so I may aswell get it. In future I'm sure I'll upgrade the 1150 CPU which would be harder to do on an 1155 (not sure if Intel are planning on releasing any more Ivy processors though).
No more new ivy processors. They're going EOL. Just get 1150 and not have random buyers remorse latter.
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No more new ivy processors. They're going EOL. Just get 1150 and not have random buyers remorse latter.
Thought as much, and the Ivy-E will be 2011 socket I assume (not that I need that level of power)
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Trust me, after owning a dead socket (1156) that I wish I could have upgraded my mobo for, I would go with something that will have a few generations left in it like 2011 with IB-E (3820 for now and OC it) or 1150 4670K, and then get Broadwell if you really like spending money.... or wait and find out if Skylake will be on 1150...anyone know if Skylake chips are planned for sure on 1150?

I would love to know since I seemingly won't need to upgrade my 3 year old system until then since the high end market is stagnant except for more SATA/USB3 and marginally better GPUs ever since mobile has taken over the world. rolleyes.gif
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Trust me, after owning a dead socket (1156) that I wish I could have upgraded my mobo for, I would go with something that will have a few generations left in it like 2011 with IB-E (3820 for now and OC it) or 1150 4670K, and then get Broadwell if you really like spending money.... or wait and find out if Skylake will be on 1150...anyone know if Skylake chips are planned for sure on 1150?

I would love to know since I seemingly won't need to upgrade my 3 year old system until then since the high end market is stagnant except for more SATA/USB3 and marginally better GPUs ever since mobile has taken over the world. rolleyes.gif

Good point. Alright. If skyline is 1150, I will go that route.
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I made the exact same thread, exact same position then you (upgrading from a 955) and I decided to go with Haswell. I've looked at most of the reviews for the overclock and performance part. It doesn't seem that bad at all considering heat is the problem when overclocking the CPU is heat witch can be solved by deliding and having a good watercooling setup. new boards seems nice too and you upgrade on a fresh platform vs a dead one. Power saving is also nice.

If I was on sandy or ivy I would not even think about it but considering you need a new mobo anyway and the prices of ivy vs haswell if you aren't near a microcenter is a burger at mc Donald and some french fries it would be the better choice.
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